Talk:Battle of Rocroi

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The article say "Outraged by this, Enghien ordered a renewed assault. The remnants of the Spanish squares were broken."

The spanish square never were broken, which is the source? According with the accounts of the battle, the french attacked three times the spanish position unsucessful, then they offered to the spanish a good surrender, and the spanish agreed.

-Fco

      What accounts are those, Francisco?.

Here you can see it: http://www.geocities.com/aow1617/Rocroi1uk.pdf --Bentaguayre 15:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish losses

The spanish losses described in the article disagree with those enumerated in the battle summary.

Changed that. Aran|heru|nar 12:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

The link above by Bentaguayre would appear to put in dispute both the assertion that the Spanish were broken, and the assertion that the Spanish lost 15,000 men. Perhaps the figure is based upon French sources only? Doug 14:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decisive

Just a curiosity: in what way was the battle "decisive?" It didn't end the war, it didn't force negotiations, and it didn't even end campaigning in that sector of the war, so far as I can tell. I know it was a clear French victory, but in what way are we using the term "decisive?" Doug 14:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering about that earlier. Looking at other battle pages, it appears to have become convention here to say "decisive" when we mean that the fighting on that day was one-sided. It doesn't seem to be related to whether or not it brought an end to the war. For example, Battle of Carillon of 1758 is described as a "Decisive French victory" although it occurred in a war that France ultimately lost. Funnyhat 06:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)