Talk:Battle of Białystok-Minsk

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Okay, as requested on the Military History Project, I have started this article using a lot of information and the map from the article on the Western Front. I will get back to it and add to it over the coming weeks. Everybody else feel free to chip in. Andreas 08:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions (geographic names)

People should familiarise themselves with the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) Based on this policy, the geographic names need to use naming that reflects English usage, and use during historical period. --mrg3105 (comms) If you're not taking any flak, you're not over the target. 01:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] renaming

This was a major German strategic operation and not a "Battle of...". Further more, the Germans were unlikely to have used the Polish spelling of the cities.

The name also seems to be problematic because the "battle" was not in the area between Bialystok and Minsk as the title suggests, but Grodno (for the 3 Panzer Group) and Litovsk-Kobryn (for the 2nd Panzer Group). The Bialystock part of the operation was an afterthought created due to the failed Soviet counter-attack that left a large number of troops unable to withdraw to Minsk position, and therefore a twin envelopment (figure 8). Minsk had been the objective of Mitte.

I would propose the renaming of this article as Minsk strategic envelopment (1941)--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 04:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] km or kms

Allowing for imperfections in the wiki search function,

• km matches 140,000 times
• kms matches 226 times including extraneous matches of KMS (KriegsMarineShip).

This would suggest that km is the correct and proper usage and not kms. Tabletop (talk) 06:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I have always used and s although I see now [1] that it is not the standard. I am baffled as to why. People too lazy to type an extra letter?!--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 06:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

If you type the s, is looks like kilometres-seconds. which is idiotic and not ISO. Most people do fortunately get km right. Tabletop (talk) 07:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You mean km/s? So for those who may misinterpret the notation the s was dropped? Idiot-proofing science.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 07:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)