User talk:Barayef

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[edit] Lazarus

Did you see the comment in the edit history on Lazarus? It quotes the comment in the section, namely, "PLEASE DO NOT ADD EXAMPLES WITHOUT REMOVING LESS-NOTABLE ONES; SEE TALK." That is asking editors to first see the talk page for the reason for the comment, and second, asking editors not to expand the section. The purpose of the "in modern culture" section of Lazarus is not to attempt a list of all mentions of Lazarus in modern culture. Rather, it is to show that mention of Lazarus is pervasive across all areas of culture. A new area, or a more important example for an existing area, would be appropriate edits, but simply adding another musical track that mentions Lazarus does not contribute. Tb (talk) 01:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not see your comment when I wrote this. The question is not how many words it is, but rather, what does it contribute to the article? It is important to show, by examples, that Lazarus is pervasive in contemporary culture. But a list of every mention is not valuable: it doesn't help explain Lazarus at all. Tb (talk) 01:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting that any fact should find a place in Wikipedia. And, I agree! But the place for the facts in question is on the pages devoted to those programs and bands. No doubt in my mind, any interesting fact has a place here. (There are some who disagree, but not me.) But the Lazarus page is about Lazarus. How do these facts help the reader understand Lazarus? That's the question for the Lazarus article.

There is a further comment, which I hope will be more helpful. The ideal thing to do is to discuss this on Talk:Lazarus, under the section created by the editor who proposed this for that page. I'm willing to be convinced, if you can explain why these contributions would help in understanding Lazarus, and I expect other editors would be as well. Wikipedia works by consensus, and normally consensus is reached by looking at talk pages and entering into discussion. I'm glad you're discussing this one with me; it would be even better if we discussed it on the talk page so that other editors could join in as well.

And, finally, I want to thank you for your edits. I think those particular edits are not the best thing, but your spirit is the right one! Making bold edits that you think will improve the page is generally the right way to go. Then, if another editor or editors disagree with one's bold edits, the next step is to start discussing it (as you have done). Tb (talk) 01:50, 27 March 2008 (UTC)