Talk:Bart D. Ehrman

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[edit] Major Themes

I corrected the following statement: "In 1 John, where we find the one and ONLY Biblical reference to the doctrine of the Trinity, it is shown that it was added centuries later." Since the Council of Nicea apparently affirmed the Trinity without knowledge of this passage, the statement as it was appeared to be in error. Also, italicizing the word centuries appeared to serve no purpose, so I altered that as well.

[edit] Questionable Passage

Is this needed? See quote:

In March of 2006, Ehrman and evangelical theologian William Lane Craig engaged in a debate entitled "Is There Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus?" on the campus of the College of the Holy Cross, with Ehrman arguing the opposing position. Following the event, Ehrman's publisher, along with Craig, expressed interest in publishing the transcript in book form. However, Ehrman declined.[2][3][4] In June of 2006, a transcript of the debate was made available on the college's website.[5]

Also, this seems pretty loaded:

His desire to know the original words of the Bible led him to textual criticism, which in turn undermined his faith in the Bible as the inerrant word of God.

--Jfahler; 12:02, 14 Aug. 2007


Sure - the quote above is almost directly out of his preface in "Misquoting Jesus" -- his latest work.

--Earnric 21:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


I deleted that garbage about the debate. The references were completely unverifiable and only found on one evangelical's website. I accidently deleted with it the link to the debate - that should be put back up if someone can find it.

--brichert; 12:45, 9 March 2008

[edit] Change to Colbert Report Piece

I made a minor change to the Colbert Report sentence. From only to be called an "atheist without..." to jokingly called an "athiest without...". If you have ever watched the show you will know that it is satire and parody. The previous version seemed to imply that a genuine insult was being hurled at Mr. Ehrman. After watching the segment twice, I am positive that the comment was not an insult, as implied by the original poster. -Cosentino

Before the wikipedia those who took his Intro to Christian Literature had to wait until the last class to learn about his personal beliefs. Thanks for giving students another day to skip! 67.165.173.250 18:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I'm sure that information is not available anywhere else on the internet. Wikipedia, you are the bane of education! --fleela ±alk 19:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biography

This biography is copied from Talk:Jesus/Cited_Authors_Bios#Bart_Ehrman:

===Bart Ehrman=== James A. Gray Distinguished Professor and Chair, Department of Religious Studies, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Previously taught at Rutgers University (UNC and RU are both secular, state universities). PhD. Princeton Theological Seminary (Magna Cum Laude). He has published extensively in the fields of New Testament and Early Christianity, having written or edited nineteen books, numerous articles, and dozens of book reviews. Among his most recent books are a college-level textbook on the New Testament, two anthologies of early Christian writings, a study of the historical Jesus as an apocalyptic prophet (Oxford Univesity Press), and a Greek-English Edition of the Apostolic Fathers for the Loeb Classical Library (Harvard University Press). He has served as President of the Southeast Region of the Society of Biblical literature, chair of the New Testament textual criticism section of the Society, book review editor of the Journal of Biblical Literature, and editor of the monograph series The New Testament in the Greek Fathers (Scholars Press). He currently serves as co-editor of the series New Testament Tools and Studies (E. J. Brill) and on several other editorial boards for monographs in the field. Winner of numerous university awards and grants, Prof. Ehrman is the recipient of the 1993 UNC Undergraduate Student Teaching Award, the 1994 Phillip and Ruth Hettleman Prize for Artistic and Scholarly Achievement, and the Bowman and Gordon Gray Award for excellence in teaching. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:01, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

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I leave it to others to incorprate this into the article. I'd also like to cite The Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew as a significant work. archola 18:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additional information is available...

I don't know if it would work within Wikipedia guidelines for this type of article, but Bart's CV is available on the internet. Seems to me that readers would be interested in scrolling through a list of his extensive publications, numerous teaching awards, grant history, etc. Would it be possible to expand this article using some of the widely available lists of his accomplishments? If one would need his permission, I worked with him at the Religious Studies Dept of UNC back in the 90's, and might be able to contact him for permission. If this seems a good option, please leave a note on my Wiki "talk" page. Soltera 13:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lead

Should there be "scare quotes" around the word "expert" in the lead sentence? Are these even scare quotes, or does he claim somewhere that he is an expert, or what?? Alg8662 (talk) 05:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


I believe the word scholar may be a better choice than expert. The word expert can be somewhat subjective or misconstrued. On the other hand, I believe the Career and Bibliography sections contain more than enough evidence showing Ehrman is a specialist in his field. Even those who disagree with his conclusions, cite him as a leading contributor of textual criticism (e.g., Dr Daniel B. Wallace, professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary) See http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=3844.