Talk:Barnsley

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Changed Thatcher govt from "deciding" the pits were oncompetivative to "noticing". Uncompetitiveness is not "decided", it is a numerical fact that can be read off company accounts. The govt is still negatively protrayed here though -- I think its generally accepted that their handling of the problem was botched -- however they did not create the problem (it had been building up but brushed under the carpet for years before they were even elected) and (presumably) tried to act in the best interests of the taxpayer. Anyone know if other approaches were tried before closing them -- selling them off to the higheswt bidder would have been the obvious tory method? Did they try this but with no buyers?

The wording needs to be as politically neutral as possible. The issue is a lot more complicated than mere profitability. During the Cold War, every country was keen to be energy self-sufficient. Britain subsidised its coalfields, but generally to a much lower level than France, Germany or Belgium. Nowadays, we import lots of coal from Russia. We could not have done that before the 1980s. Anyway, that issue should be confined to UK miners' strike (1984-1985). Letting a political issue into a town's article can have ugly consquences. The Wiki article for Dewsbury attracted lots of remarks about the town's race relations, which led to a very unpleasant article. Let us not do the same thing for Barnsley and mining! Epa101 (talk) 20:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] The Barnsley Plinth

I don't believe anyone proposed to have a statue of Tuscan hill villages on the Barnsley plinth - I'm therefore removing this reference.--XmarkX 08:50, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The famous plinth with nothing on it, is effectionately called 'Vermin Island' by the local police. Due to the calibre of people who sit on it during the day.

[edit] Regeneration

although regeneration is now underway, it still falls behind the other local towns Doncaster, Wakefield, Sheffield and Leeds

Isn't this a bit overly opinionated? What does it fall behind them for? Barnsley has more small businesses per head than anywhere else. Why not also list towns that Barnsley might be seen as being "ahead of", such as glorious Dewsbury?

"The youth and large student population of Barnsley and other Futurists would prefer to leave those images behind and choose an emblem of the EU, or of technology." I don't think saying that the youth and student popultaion totally support this is accurate and seams to be an assumption.

[edit] Statue To Dickie

"The most popular suggestion so far seems to be a statue of famous Barnsley Cricket umpire Dickie Bird, a symbol of good will and fair play."

What is the basis for this?

[edit] Barnsley Population

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the actual population for actually 222,100 going by the figures on BMBC's website for 2005? Surely this should be ammended. Also I am now led to belive that the number has rose by quite a bit now but no figures are currently out.

http://www.barnsley.gov.uk/bguk/Economic_Finance/Central%20Research%20Team/Mid-year%20Population%20EstimatesÄ’

(Callum-1997 (talk) 12:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC))