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To-do list for Barnet F.C.: edit · history · watch · refresh

In an effort to improve the standard of this article and towards a final goal of featured status here is a list of the following things to be done.

Need Adding:

  • Need a section on the explaining the history of the Stadium with some images.
  • Need a section explaining the club crest.
  • Need a section explaining the kit and it's the clubs colours.

Need Improving:

  • The Managers section needs a clean-up and considerable improvement.
  • The history of Barnet FC after the club turned professional in 1965 and entered the Southern League.

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All help is much appreciated.
Regards Govvy.

Contents

[edit] Noteworthy former players

I started a "Other noteworthy former players" list for Barnet, I am pretty sure we can find some more. Govvy 23:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

is it going to include players who played for the bees towards the end of their careers, like Ray Clemence and Jimmy Greaves? Grutness...wha? 01:29, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

- I had a look at Alan Pardew page and saw no mention of any affliction with Barnet, so I would like to know what the relationship is. Govvy 19:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC).

Pardew appeared as a player for Barnet in 1993/94. I think you mean affiliation rather than afflicition, although maybe that was intentional!! --84.65.139.137 10:51, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah - confirmed by http://allfootballers.com/. He was on the squad (although they say it was 95/96... which is right?). And the same site doesn't list Andy Clarke as ever appearing for Barnet - anyone able to confirm? Grutness...wha? 11:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
ahhh skip that second part - I'd forgotten it only lists years in the football league so won't list him if he played while Barnet was in the conference. Grutness...wha? 11:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Alan Pardew finished his playing career at Barnet, he was a regular starter while he was there between 1995 and 1997.rudebwoyben

[edit] current squad

Albert Adomah is Number 7. It said so in the latest Barnet Programme at home to Bristo Rovers in the fa cup on saturday.

[edit] Managers

I have added a new section for Barnet Managers - believe I have last 30 years correct, but obviously there are still names to add prior to this. Added brief updates Alan Pardew & Alan Mullery pages. Looking at Tony Cottee page which says he resigned! from Barnet, regards, Kickit

Added extra managers back to WWII - selection committee prior to this. Only vague dates known so have left them off for now. regards, Kickit

Updated main history section regarding Ray Clemence with correct dates etc. Kickit

Section revised July 2007. Kickit


[edit] Record Attendances

Added home & away numbers. Regards, Kickit

I am thinking of removing this section completely, we don't need these statistics in the article. Who else is in agreement for this? Govvy 01:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Has been removed by someone.

[edit] Honours

Updated this section. there are lots more in earlier years plus reserves. regards, kickit

Isn't it a bit over the top? Govvy 22:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe. Wikipedia is probably the most up to date list! Kickit

[edit] Club v Council

Whoever has stated that that club will move to a new stadium at Canons Park in 2007-08 is way wide of the mark. There are no plans to build a Football League ground at Canons Park. The deal struck between Wealdstone FC, the London Borough of Harrow and Barnet FC explicitly states that the new ground cannot be used for league football. Barnet's involvement in this project is confined to building training facilities for the squad and a youth academy.

[edit] Most appearances/goals

An anon recently changed these stats on the article (see here). I've reverted them, since the idea of someone scoring 400 goals in 6 seasons is, well ridiculous unless you're Dixie Dean - so this looks lijke vandalism. If anyone has any evidence to the contrary, though... Grutness...wha? 04:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

1927/8 ... 38 1928/9 ... 63 1929/30 .. 58 1930/1 ... 65 1931/2 ... 47 1932/3 ... 25 1933/4 ... 26 1934/5 ... 25 1935/6 ... 56 That is a total of 403 goals in 9 seasons. Main page amended. Kickit —Preceding comment was added at 15:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Location Location Location.

For those that don't know:

North Barnet (Chipping Barnet) - Brunswick Park, Coppetts, East Barnet, High Barnet, Oakleigh, Totteridge, Underhill. Geographically still tie into Hertfordshire. In 1965 it was just the administration of these area's that moved to London to minimise the administration costs of Hertford. However they still are considered part of Hertfordshire geographically, peace Govvy 13:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

This is not the case. Wikipedia: naming conventions (places) uses current, not historic or former postal geography. MRSC • Talk 21:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Exactly. Barnet is no longer officially in Hertfordshire (sadly), and as such should be listed only as Greater London. It is in neither the traditional nor ceremonial county of Herts for official purposes, though still has historic ties with it. Grutness...wha? 23:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I got another thing for you lot, next time you goto a match, get a programme and look at the address for Barnet FC. It clearly states it is in Hertfordshire! Govvy 10:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Continued use of Postal counties doesn't really prove anything. Hampton Court Palace is in Surrey according to that scheme. 15:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Addressing the address, if it says Hertfordshire, it's still in Hertfordshire, it's that simple to me!! Govvy 16:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately it's not that simple to anyone else though - especially to the administration of England's counties. Barnet isn't in Hertfordshire to them - and it's those counties that are used on WP. Grutness...wha? 04:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Grutness is right. And I doubt many people in the former Avon, where the postal county is also unchanged, see it that way. MRSC • Talk 07:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Club badge

The red & white roses on the clubs badge reflecct the historic battle of Barnet.→Posted by 86.3.62.176 15:10, 23 May 2007 (GMT) (please sign your posts using ~~~~).

Very true. The 1471 battle was a pivotal one in the Wars of the Roses. I'll add that in. Grutness...wha? 01:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Added section for this. Will expand with relevant details later kickit...

[edit] Trivia

Removed this section as proposed by wikipedia. Two items remain to be added... any suggestions where?

  • The long standing BBC Football commentator John Motson is a supporter, or at least has strong ties with the club having worked for the Finchley and Barnet Press in his early days as a journalist. He seems to mention Barnet at every possible moment, even when commentating on England World Cup matches.
  • A frequent highlight of Barnet's pre-season programme is a traditional friendly against top north London side Arsenal. Arsenal's training ground is at Shenley, Hertfordshire, just to the northwest of Barnet and their reserve team plays its home games at Underhill.

[edit] Non League Years (1965-1991)

Added this section - probably needs updates/checking kickit