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[edit] spelling
The spelling is atrocious. Would the creator (or someone who can get into the creator's head) please clean it up!
- Thank you! Odin of Trondheim 20:43, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] unsourced statements
I'm removing the following unsourced statements:
The Barlas were fierce warriors even among Mongols, and the famous American Historian, Harold Lamb wrote of them that "They laughed into battle" and that "They walked with a swagger and moved aside for no one." The Barlas Mongols originally rode out of Mongol lands with Chingis Khan, and subsequently settled as hereditary aristocratic warriors in the lands he bequeathed to his son, Chaghtai or Jagatai. That these warrior Mongols married, and intermingled to some degree with the local Turks, and settled in the lands bequeathed to Chagtai, does not make them Chagtai Turks, which they are often wrongly referred to as, because there is no such ethnic group, and it is just a loose frame of reference unrelated to actual lineage. The Barlas warrior who brought the clan to hegemonic imperial power was the fierce conqueror Timur or Tamerlane, (1334(?) - 1406) who conquered the Central Asian Steppes, Persia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, India, the Ottoman empire and much more. Old, blind and sick at the end of his days, and lame since his youth, he died in the saddle, on his way to conquer China, the only power left for him to conquer. Timur ibn Taraghay Barlas was widely considered the military equal of Chingis Khan, and was never defeated in battle, where, unlike Chingis Khan, he always led from the front. Timur's direct descendent, Babur, founded the Mughal Empire in India, the richest empire ever, anywhere, which ruled India from 1526-1857. Barlas was the imperial family of the Mughals of India, who are often misleadingly referred to as "Chagtai Turks" as discussed earlier. By way of Shakhrisabz in Uzbekistan, from whence Timur rose after the original Barlas Mongols had settled there, the Barlas became the imperial clan of Mongols that ruled the richest empire ever in India, and one of the richest and largest ones before that, across much of Asia, in the 14th century, under Timur. No other clan or family in the history of the world has ruled two such significant empires.
Please, provide cited references in order to check the verifiability of the information given. Thank you. E104421 (talk) 16:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
