Talk:Bardyllis

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[edit] Barliris could be Bardyllis

Tertulian on baraliris Tertullian is the only one mentioning this character.And he quotes Callisthenes.

"and I further learn from Callisthenes that it was from the indication of a dream that Baraliris the Illyrian stretched his dominion from the Molossi to the frontiers of Macedon."

He probably is Bardyllis that attacked epirus and macedon after Dionysius I of Syracuse proded and aided him as to change the political situation in Greece.There is no baraliris charakter anywhere else and the acts described in Tertullian refer to the assault by Bardyllis.Megistias (talk) 22:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

The events are described in Diodorus Siculus book 15.map of the attack.Megistias (talk) 22:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Diodorus Siculus Hist.Bilbiotheca historica (lib. 1-20)Book 15 chapter 13 section 2 line 4- section 3 line 1--He sent to his allies 2000 soldiers and 500 Greek armors and the Illyrians gave them to the best of their troops and mixed the soldiers(the Greeks) with those of their own. The article is lacking and is full of errorsMegistias (talk) 19:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Bardhyllis= Bardh(white)+ yllis(star), Albania(Albanoi=white) Albania was derived from Bardh=white=Albanoi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.236.122.237 (talk) 22:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

There is no established connection with Illyrians to albanians.Megistias (talk) 22:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dionysius aspirations

Bardyllis united the illyrians and attacked Greece defeating Macedonia and imposing a tax of submission in 385 he advanced still more deeply in Greece making attacks in Epirus as well. These attacks were coordinated from the Dionysius I of Syracuse a Tyrant that wanted to change the Molossian king with Alcetas I of Epirus that was exiled .He Intended to control the Ionian sea.The "Celtic" type army of Bardyllis had been strengthened with 2000 Greek soldiers of magna grecia and 500 bronze thoraxes for their Illyrians. The Epirotes were surprised and lost 15.000 men. At the possession of Epirus the Bardyllis acquired thousands bronze thoraxes and hoplite shields from epirotes that fought with the hoplite way .He began training his army in the hoplite way of battle. Simultaneously he overcame the king [Ptolemy of Aloros]] ruling Macedon that tried to free Macedon from the tax of submission. Afterwards he won his successor Perdiccas III of Macedon killing him. Perdiccas III of Macedon was the father of Phillipp , father of Alexander the Great. When the Spartans learned what happened to the Epirotes and that Dodona was defiled by the illyrians Agesilaus ventured against them and destroyed them completely forcing them to leave Epirus and Macedon.

The events are described by diodorus of Siculus book 15.

Can someone get a secondary source on this? The event doesn't seem to be that important to modern historiansMegistias (talk) 19:48, 18 December 2007 (UTC)