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Yes, we know they have stolen our page, as well as most of the rest of wikipedia, without attribution. See Wikipedia:Sites that use Wikipedia for content#wordIQ. We've asked them to stop. Morwen 00:01, Jan 9, 2004 (UTC)
Sorry! 82.82.120.245 00:02, 9 Jan 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Merge

I'm all for it, as long as someone can figure out how to deal with the issue of Knapsack (band). I know there's a newfangled way to do it cleanly. --Smack (talk) 04:07, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

A good backpack should be made of material that protect from water and wind?

Not really. As far as water goes, it's better to have an external waterproof pack cover. First, it's hard to make a single-layer material light, sturdy and waterproof at the same time. Second, if you have a pack cover, you can leave it at home if you know it's not going to rain (yes, that is actually possible in some parts of the country). As far as wind goes, why does it matter? --Smack (talk) 04:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Most modern backpacks have a certain water resistancy (although the diminishes over the years). Lightweight plastic covers are a good idea. They have the added beniefit you can use it to sit on wet grass; and imporvise a waterproof nightcover for your pack if you are camping without tent (or a very small one) Arnoutf 19:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


the correct german word for back is not rücke BUT rücken

[edit] School

This article doesn't mention its use by schoolchildren, one of its most common uses. - Mmace91 04:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Well just add it. Arnoutf 12:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Rucksack

>The British created the names rucksack (a German loanword - 'rücken' being the bodypart 'back'),

can anybody verify this? because the word "Sack" also meand "bag" in german, so it seems more like a word that ist completly german in origin. (and dropping some letters or changing them ü->u is not very uncommon in german words) Elvis 12:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I thikn the intention was that the whole word was a loanword from the German word Rucksack. But that the German is just the same as the English Back-Ruck Pack-Sack. Arnoutf 13:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi there, the word "rucksack" is a typical german word construction made of two different words combined to another meaning. A "sack" is in german the same as in english - something to put things into it. "ruck" comes not from the german word "Rücken" wich is "back" in english. "ruck" in the word "rucksack" comes from the german word "Ruck", wich means to move or lift something with a fast strong and powerfull motion. "Rucksack" is a sack that you have to lift with an "Ruck" to your back, and so this word has a complete german origin. Sorry for my english, and greetings from Germany, Volker
Sorry but that is truly pseudoetymology. It comes from Rucken [1]. It is a bit like saying that Jogging is derived from the Dutch sjokken (which means slowly walking, very tired, bent head etc) - which is also only pseudo-etymology. Arnoutf 20:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
my german ethymological dictionary states clearly that the word was used as early as the 16th century in switzerland (the u instead of the ü indicates alpine dialects also) and was commonly used in German language countries in the 19th century. Therefore the whole word is a loanword from German. Daniel

Hi there! I learned at school that "rucksack" is a Dutch loanword, from the word "rugzak", a bag on your back. We were told that this loanword was introduced in English in the 16th or 17th century (the age when the Dutchmen ruled the seas), as Dutch sailmen (/marines) wear "rucksacks". Has any of you heard about this version? Greetz, W. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.174.41.124 (talk) 20:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Laptop Backpacks

There's no mention of laptop backpacks, which are one of the most specialised and customized types of backpacks available today. 124.43.210.15 10:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganised the article

I reorganised the article into three main sections.

  • Daily use (ie book bags; laptop bags; purses etc etc)
  • Professional use (mainly military)
  • Leisure and travel

I think this organisation allows the sections to develop as the different types of backpacks have more similarity through usage than through the fairly random order given untill now. Arnoutf 11:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Types of fabric

When the article talks about the different types of fabric, could someone go over what the D rating is? As an example, I just came across this ad: "Fabric backpack features 420D Diamond Ripstop Nylon, Two ton Fabric and 600D Polyester with 1000D Kodra bottom construction." What does that mean?

[edit] Rolling backpacks

Why does the article not mention anything about rolling backpacks? A rolling backpack is a hybrid of a luggage and a backpack. These backpacks put less strain on one's back and shoulders than regular backpacks. Can someone mention these backpacks on this article with an appropriate image and citations please? Johnny Au 22:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I have never heard or seen any of those, they seem pretty much a marginal thing to me; perhaps a one liner. Arnoutf 07:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
If you go on Google and search "rolling backpacks" and "chiropractors", then you can find evidence that most chiropractors support the use of rolling backpacks and are beginning to be less marginal as a result. Johnny Au 15:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
If I look at the images through Google it seems it is more a luggage with shoulder straps than a backpack with wheels. Arnoutf 17:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
No, they're pretty much what they sound like. I don't know how widely available they are around the world, but I can find them in any of the big outdoors stores near me (eastern Massachusetts -- REI, EMS, LL Bean). That said, I'd be a little more impressed if I heard it from an orthopedic surgeon than a chiropractor. (But what do I know -- I use an internal-frame camping pack as a manpurse.) Haikupoet 17:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I would not like to take such a thing up a mountain carrying my stuff along cliffs though. Can someone else add the information. Arnoutf 17:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Haversack

Isn't the haversack a shoulderbag? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.211.191.229 (talk) 18:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)