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"Thus, a broad grey, unnamed status has emerged between the concepts of "bachelor" and "married man.""
Cohabitation, common-law. These are two names off the top of my head. Can something that has existed for the history of humanity be said to have recently emerged? Can a "status" exist between two "concepts?" This sentance is weird and I submit it be striken, or at least modified.
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[edit] Conflicted Bachelor?
Someone explain or delete "Chris Bartlett, conflicted bachelor." 71.156.37.155 (talk) 17:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Love Shy
Not applicable to Marriage Strike. The Strike is about the reaction against the persecution of men via misandristic draconian pro-feminist societies.
[edit] All bachelors are gay
Most of us don't care - just accept that you're gay and be happy with yourself. Seriously. 130.54.130.229 12:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Right. Edited that one out. 213.84.29.60 07:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes I am happy, but how can I accept that I'm gay when I find myself bringing home women to my bachelor pad? Nice try, however I could accuse someone of being a closet homosexual hiding behind their matrimonial status, but that would be hitting too close to the truth. Seriously. Capper01 04:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia is not a dictionary.
I mean, one doesn't go to an encyclopedia to find out the meaning of the word "bachelor"; one uses a dictionary for that. So, is there anything else we can say about bachelors or bachelorhood that might properly go in an encyclopedia? --LMS
Yup. 68.101.130.214 (talk) 09:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Knight bachelor
Should not be restricted to historical as knights bachelor still exist. --Daniel C. Boyer 14:15, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Restrict to marriageable
I added "but marriageable" since, in modern usage, a monk, Catholic priest, or underage boy cannot be a bachelor. This of course makes "eligible bachelor" a pleonasm. The category "bachelor" is also fuzzy at the edges: is a man in a long-term committed relationship a "bachelor"? One would normally say no. See http://www.d.umn.edu/~dcole/bachelor.htm --Macrakis 06:00, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, but society knows that not all bachelors are worth marrying, hence the qualifier. A rich man and a homeless guy might be equally available, but that doesn't mean they're both eligible -- or fit -- for marriage, if you're a woman. 69.239.236.37 15:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
It has been argued that 'marriageable' is part of the connotation, rather than denotation of 'bachelor'. Is the Pope a bachelor? Probably, but he's hardly a good example. This approach would be a prototype-style cognitive linguistic approach. Western Philosophy has traditionally had problems with defining this kind of word, exactly because of its fuzzy edges. Perhaps, "but marriageable" could be replaced by, "but of marriageable age" following the OED. But then, this isn't a dictionary. --Peter 12:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 30th Birthday Custom in Germany
Someone has written in the wiki: "In some cultures, the 'punishment' of bachelors is no more than a teasing game. In small towns in Germany, for example, men who were still unmarried on their 30th birthday were made to sweep the stairs of the town hall until kissed by a virgin. This 'punishment' has now died out."
I don't think this is entirely true, because I observed this custom in Münster in May 2006.
I agree. This custom is still in use. I personally know it from Braunschweig and Göttingen. Therefore it is also not limited to small towns. I would transfer the whole paragraph into present and would delete the last sentence. --68.76.79.86 01:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] how do you say this word?
I would find it helpful if Wikipedia would include a phonetic pronunciation of the word. Recently I and some others were discussing this word and were unable to agree as to how to say it. I got out my copy of "the New Lexicon Webster's Encyclopedic Dictionary of the English Language - Canadian Edition(1988)) but could not even find the word Bachelor in it! Is it pronounced [bache]-[lor] 2 syllables(silent 'e'), or [bach]- [e] - [lor] 3 syllables? Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.180.252.69 (talk) 20:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
- Both versions are in current usage. You can't really say that one is right and the other is wrong, since they're both acceptable, like "farther" and "further". 69.239.236.37 15:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Famous Lifetime Bachelors
I have some problems with this section. For one, it's very long and little more than a list. Second, it's a big target for vandalism/misinformation. Finally, the word "famous" is very subjective and very broad. Is this section really necessary? I'm thinking it should be removed, or perhaps if anyone feels it's important it can be turned into a category into which the men listed can be filed instead. Diabloman 17:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I know. I was under the impression that it was for deceased men who never married, and yet Matthew McConaughley and Matt Dillon are listed in it? Must have been vandalism. Chantessy 15:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I think men who died bachelors deserve to be listed, as the vast majority of adults do get married at some point. However, I believe that no one currently alive should be here as there is always the possibility that they will get married in the future. There is also the problem of some living people appearing in the "lifetime" section and others appearing in the "living" section, which is clearly inconsistent.76.241.88.94 (talk)
I agree. "Famous" dead bachelors should be listed here but there is no point in putting living ones here, since they may get married at any time. And those who died unexpectedly and young (such as Heath Ledger) are not relevant because they might have married had they lived a long time. Those of interest are those who lived to old age and never married. 68.101.130.214 (talk) 09:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Section needs major cleanup. Chantessy 17:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "citation needed"
What is up with all the "citation needed" refuse cluttering this article? How can one cite the colloquial usage of a word? The citation is the entire library of current-era texts. How's that for a citation? :P --Ayeroxor 15:14, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
