Talk:Azerbaijani American

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[edit] Azari speakers among Iranian Americans

Iranian Azari speaking folks are officially Iranian Americans and not Azerbaijani Americans! That is their official status. Please do avoid including them here as it is considered a point of view and not an official fact. Persian Magi (talk) 01:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Look, no one is denying they are Iranian. But the fact that they come from Iran doesn't mean they do not belong to the ethnic group called Azeris or Azerbaijanis. I suggest you read the article Azerbaijani people to get a better understanding of who is considered ethnic Azerbaijani - a respresentative of "an ethnic group mainly in the Republic of Azerbaijan and northwestern Iran." 99.226.143.206 (talk) 05:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
It can be infered from the template at the end of this article that X in "X-American" refers to nationality. --Pejman47 (talk) 15:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Well then, improve the template instead of taking information out of the article. There is nothing wrong with the content. There's no conspiracy or weave-plotting about this article, guys, please just leave it be. Nobody is trying to argue that Iranian Azeris are not Iranian. When one says 'Azerbaijani American' the first part is carrying an ethnic sense only. So why are you reverting? Why is this causing a problem? 99.226.143.206 (talk) 05:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
If the article is talking about the original ethnicity - and not nationality - then why is it referencing to Azerbaijani Society of America(AZ.republic) and why in the template it is classified as "Caucasus"? Iranian Azerbaijan is not in the Caucasus region. --Alborz Fallah (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The Azerbaijani Society of America has nothing to do with the country of Azerbaijan. The society was established in 1957! It's only mentioned because it's the first cultural organization ever established by ethnic Azeris in North America. It is not a government institution. Why are you guys looking for some kind of a dirty trick?
It is in the Caucasus section because part of the people who qualify to be called Azerbaijani Americans come from the Caucasus. If you want to add a link to this article into this template, do it by all means, but don't mess up this article. 99.226.143.206 (talk) 05:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
ASA site explicitly says:
The Azerbaijan Society of America (ASA), established in 1957 in New Jersey, USA, is a non-profit organization dedicated to enhancing knowledge about Azerbaijan, the Azerbaijani people, their culture and history, as well as promoting ties in economic, cultural, and scientific spheres between the United States and Republic of Azerbaijan. ASA works with various organizations, associations and religious groups to enhance intercultural understanding and to promote peace and stability in the Caucasus region.
Furthermore, Iranian Azaris are identified as Iranian-Americans. Would you call an American Talysh from Azarbaijan Republic a Talyshi-American or an Azerbaijani-American? Persian Magi (talk) 02:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
For the last name, this article is not about The Azerbaijan Society of America. It's about ethnic Azerbaijanis from wherever, who have moved to the United States. A Talysh from Azerbaijan who lives in the States is Talyshi-American. An Armenian from Iran or Turkey who lives in the States is Armenian-American. Nobody is questioning the Iranian national origin of Iranian Azerbaijanis. We are talking about ethnicity, not nationality. 99.226.143.206 (talk) 23:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I have also fix the template ...--Alborz Fallah (talk) 18:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind correcting the spelling, and also fix capitalisation and spaces? Because that looks a little messy. 99.226.143.206 (talk) 09:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnicity of Iranian Azarbaijanis in America

Azarbaijanis in Iran are an ethnicity in Iran and are called Azaris. There are many other ethnicities in Iran like Lors, Mazandaranis etc. Once they are in America, their ethnicity is Iranian and are called Iranian Americans. Similarly ethinicities among Azerbaijani of Republic of Azerbaijan are called Azerbaijani Americans. There is no such a thing as Lor Americans, Taylishi American, Lezgi American etc. So I do not agree with including Iranian Americans of Azarbaijan area in this article. Persian Magi (talk) 15:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

They are Iranian American because of their nationality, and Azerbaijani/Azeri American because of their ethnicity. You are resorting to OR; what makes you say "there is no such a thing Taylishi American, Lezgi American"? There is such thing. If a Jew emigrates from Iran to the States, he or she is both Iranian American and Jewish American. If an Iranian Armenian settles in the US, he or she is both Iranian American and Armenian American. Azeris (it is the same thing as Azerbaijanis, do not start a discussion on this) form a single ethnic group[1], so no matter where they are from, they will be Azeri/Azerbaijani Americans due to their ethnicity. Along with their nationality (if they come from Iran, they will also be Iranian Americans, if they come from Turkey, they will also be Turkish Americans). 99.226.143.206 (talk) 09:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)