Talk:Avril Lavigne discography

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[edit] Singles Canada

Everyone here knows that Avril has never had a #1 in Canada. So, I'm taking it away until the person who put it on here realizes this. Tcatron565 15:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it's always the same person doing it. But they obviously restored it as the #1's were back up on the page again. I don't see why someone's so desperate to get across something that's not even true. How sad. Someone should block the IP, although it seems the IP the person uses changes regularly. 210.50.189.16 06:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] United World Chart

We are very lucky that both of Avril Lavigne's album are on the all Time United World Chart

Her first album sold 18.000.000 copies

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Her second sold 10.000.000 copies

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This are the most accurate figures and should be used. --Interestedscholar 16:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Her official web site says that Let Go has sold over 16 million worldwide and Under My Skin 8 million. Kraft. 08:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Media Traffic is considered the most reliable source in the world, and should any information have been on her site about it being 16 million, it would be correct. The highest selling album released in the last decade is Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory at above 24 million so Avril whose 4th place is a respectable one, is 16 million. --lincalinca 13:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The link says Let Go sold 13 mil. and Under My Skin sold 6.5, so stop trying to change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.8.179 (talk) 20:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Under My Sking US Sales

Check this news (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003522792) from billboard, where it says she sold 3.0 million so far in the US for UMS and 10 mil Worldwide.So please, don't change it, since it's an official source. Thanks. Kajito 16:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Its becoming really frustrating that u continue to change Let Go and Under My Skin's sale.For the last time,Let Go has sold 18 million and Under My Skin has sold more than 11 Million.

I don't see any links here at ALL. Kajito said Under My Skin sold 10 mil, where does it say that? All the link says is that it sold 2.93 million in the US, nothing else. Unless you find a link that says so, we'll just assume you're an obsessed fan. Do not blindly change everything just to fit it to your agenda. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.8.179 (talk) 20:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Avril Lavigne herself admitted to having sold 32 mil from Let Go and Under My Skin.The first selling 18 mil and second 14 mil.In South Africa Let Go sold 1 mil going 20 times platinum.In the U.S Let Go has sold over 7 mil and Under My Skin has sold 4 mil in the U.S.United World Chart estimates The Best Damn Thing to have sold 4 mil in 2 months.This gives her a total of 36 Mil worldwide.She is the only artist so far to have every single of her's reach #1 somewhere.United World Chart reports "Complicated","I'm With You" and "Girlfriend" topped the chart.She is now only the second artist in U.K history to have 3 #1 albums consecutively.She is the bestselling Canadian artist in the 2000s.Her singles have sold 22 mil worldwide,giving her total record sales of 58 mil.These statistics appear on a number of official websites and are used in magazines worldwide.

Billboard does not confirm this. The Best Damn Thing has only just passed the platinum mark while those others have not sold nearly those amounts. Where do you get this from? Billboard only indicates US sales, which is less than 8 million for the first album. Your figures are vastly inaccurate. You mention that several albums indicate this, while none of the ones I have seen (you know, the notable ones) confirm this. Rolling Stone from December last year, in fact indicates that Let Go has sold 12.6 million, but I'm sue their source is based on a slight deviation on the one from Mediatracker. The page has been blocked, however, because you need to provide an accurate source of why you believe this to be true. Avril's site, when it indicated how many copes her albums have sold, stated it had sold 13 million (I have that on archive, and can reproduce it too). --lincalinca 10:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I DO NOT see any links. How are we supposed to know you're not just a fan. Please post a link before saying that, because her official website says otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.8.179 (talk) 20:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talkpage protection

Due to the recent disruption from various IPs I have temporarily semiprotected the talkpage. Agathoclea 10:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 16 MILLION(HER DEBUT)

Whoever here keeps puting Let go's sales to 13.1 million is absolutely wrong!!! Media Traffic does not cover sales from all countries so there is always an additional 10% to the sales that it claims. (i didnt make that up, media traffic has said it!!!!check it out). Now think about it 13.1 milion + 10% = 14.5 million + sales through years (6 years have passed since its release), 1.5 million (at least)= 16 million +++++++. Plus: Her official website([3]), her record company ([4]) and all media say ([5]),([6]),([7])[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][-spamfilter blocked link removed-][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27]the same thing!!!!!!!! SO STOP IT!!!

--Scary Boo 10:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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Girlfriend has now sold 4.1 million copies, please update. (In total: 4.145.000)

This page is semiprotected; any username more than a few days old can edit it. There is no need for administrator assistance to edit this page. — Carl (CBM · talk) 15:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
  • if anyone wants more sources i can give more!!!!! the hole web sais the same thing. there r probably over 100 sources thet claim the same thing but it would b very boring 2 put them all...

scary boo - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.30.223.1 (talkcontribs) 15:41, 25 June 2007.

Well maybe we should change the ref link for it then? because its saying 13.1 million ^^ Darth NormaN 16:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS TO THE SINGLES CHART

After doing several hours of research and confirming with several sources, I have gone ahead and made numerous changes and corrections to the singles chart and associated footnotes. Before everyone has a heart attack about it, I wanted to post some notes here regarding these changes.

I will go by column.

1) U.S. - This column is based on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart. I checked all of the peak positions, but made no changes as they all appear to be correct.

2) U.S. Pop - The Billboard Pop 100 Chart didn't go into effect until the single "Nobody's Home", but it is very misleading to leave dashes for all previous singles as it makes it appear that they did not chart at all. I looked for a similar chart that existed during this time, and decided to go with the U.S. ARC Weekly Chart (Radio) Top 40, which is compiled based on both radio airplay and singles sales. A footnote has been added regarding this. I also double-checked all peak positions on both the ARC chart and Pop 100 chart.

3) U.K. - This column is based on the U.K. Singles Chart. I checked all of the peak positions, and the ones currently listed are the correct ones.

4) IRE - This column is based on the Irish Singles Chart. I could not confirm the peak positions listed, so I did not make any changes.

5) ITA - No comments.

6) CAN - The Canadian BDS Airplay chart has been used in the past for this column, however, some people have listed the peak position of several songs using the Canadian Top 50 Singles Chart (because they peaked higher on this chart than they did on the BDS). IT IS VERY MISLEADING TO USE MULTIPLE CHARTS TO LIST THE BEST PEAK POSITION! One chart needs to be used if the songs are to be compared accurately. I decided to keep the Canadian BDS Airplay chart and not use the Canadian Top 50 Singles, because #1) the BDS has been used for most of the songs prior to my edits, and #2) singles sales in Canada have declined significantly (as they have just about everywhere) over the last decade, making the chart less and less accurate. The BDS chart monitors radio airplay. In June 2007, Billboard introduced the Canadian Hot 100 Chart, which is compiled based on radio airplay AND singles sales AND digital downloads (which are becomming pretty big). Therefore, starting with "When You're Gone", I used this chart instead of Canadian BDS Airplay with the intention that this chart will be used for all future singles. A footnote has been added regarding this. I checked most of the peak positions in accordance with the above, and after some changes, and the ones currently listed are correct. "Complicated" did go to #1 on the Canadian BDS Airplay, and this is her only #1 single in Canada to date.

7) AUS - This column is based on the ARIA Chart. I checked all of the peak positions, and the ones currently listed are the correct ones.

8) NZ - Checked and confirmed. The peak positions currently listed are correct.

9) NET - I could not confirm the peak positions, and therefore made no changes to this end. However, it is very misleading to list the three songs that charted on the Tipparade as #9, #1, and #13, as this makes them look like hits when they really did not even crack the top 40. This column is based on the Dutch Top 40, so, assuming the Tipparade follows the songs outside the top 40, I corrected these three peak positions. I also kept the footnote previously added.

10) MEX - This column is based on the Mexican Singles Chart. Could not confirm, made no changes.

11) SWE - This column is based on the Swedish Singles Chart. Checked and confirmed. The peak positions currently listed are correct.

12) EUR - This column is based on the Euro 200 Singles and Tracks. Could not confirm, made no changes.

13) WW - This column is based on the United World Chart. I checked all peak positions. Some that were previously listed were incorrect, and I made corrections as necessary. The peak positions currently listed are correct.

In addition to the above, I added a row for the unofficial upcoming single "Hot", and added a footnote mentioning its status as an unofficial upcoming single with no release date yet announced.

The other footnotes were cleaned up where necessary and renumbered. Almost all of the changes I have made above can be confirmed by legitimate outside sources or by music chart archieves. If anyone has questions/comments regarding these changes and corrections, or finds a mistake or problem, consider discussing it here before everyone starts making tons of changes. (This literally did take me hours to do.) I'll also answer any questions anyone has or provide web sites where some of the above was confirmed. Thanks. Weatherworld 15:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sales

Why do u people keep changing Under My Skin's sales to 8 million when it has clearly bedn proven to have sold more than 11 million copies worldwide and Let Go has sold in excess of 18 million copies worldwide.And for the peak positions of The Best Damn Thing,in Australia it peaked at number 1 but the list shows a peak of 2,she debuted at 2 but did rise to the top.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 196.30.118.76 (talkcontribs) 06:23, 18 August 2007.

[edit] Points

Check the United World Chart's Top Achievements to get the actual total points. If the data on this is true, then Girlfriend and Complicated would of charted. But only Complicated charted with 5.9 million points, NOT 6.4 million. And Girlfriend would have to be way lower or else it would of beaten some songs on the Top Achievements Chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.8.179 (talk) 13:50, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Youtube: avrillavigneofficial or avrillavigne?

I'm a bit confused.. both seem to be official but which on is the original?

http://www.youtube.com/avrillavigneofficial or http://www.youtube.com/avrillavigne ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darth NormaN (talkcontribs) 15:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dance Hits

Does Avril have any #1 Dance hits?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.21.247 (talk) 23:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)