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[edit] Potential for {worldview} issues

As the creator and (so far) primary contributor to this page, I am working from my own knowledge of autogas systems, which is primarily Australian based. I have only a little bit of knowledge of how things vary elsewhere. It is possible that some of the things I take for granted as being how things are done worldwide today may not be. If you spot something that is not consistent with how things are done in your country or area, please discuss it here or mention the regional variation when adding to the article. --Athol Mullen 02:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LPG in Australia

"While Mitsubishi and Toyota only offer sedans, Ford and Holden also offer wagons and utilities. All are dual fuel vehicles, with the exception of Ford, whose E-Gas Falcon LPG model runs on autogas only."

I removed the above because Toyota Landcruiser Prado (not a sedan) can be converted to run on LPG. Mitsubishi Pajero can too. Furthermore, not all of these offered are dual fuel. E.g. a Camry can be converted to LPG only. --Knowledge-is-power 04:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I partially reverted your removal because I can see no reason to remove mention of the fact that all except the E-gas falcon are dual-fuel. I would, however, like to clarify whether you are saying that the Prado and Pajero are offered from the factory with LPG, as that is what the sentence that you removed was about. Likewise, any vehicle can be converted to LPG-only (I have done numerous such aftermarket conversions), so are you saying that Toyota are offering the Camry in LPG-only from the factory? If so, adding reference to that fact would be more relevant than removing valid information.
I also rearranged this talk page to correct the fact that you added your comments at the top and your signature at the bottom when they all belong together at the bottom of the page. --Athol Mullen 22:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interfacing to MPi

This article would be much better if anyone could add some information about how the LPG control system interfaces to a modern multipoint injection system. This seems to be just about carburettor based systems. I don't think I've even seen a carb in ten years so some sections are not really relevant —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.69.79.28 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Indeed, more information on electronic controls, including LPG-injection systems, is needed. I don't know where you are but around here, mixer based systems are still common, both as conversions on older vehicles such as illustrated in the article and as factory installations or conversions on late model vehicles, as also illustrated in the article. I know because I drove two vehicles with mixer based systems yesterday (one an old LPG-only conversion, the other a modern factory LPG-only vehicle), but no injected gas vehicles. While there may be more information in the sections on mixer systems, there are sections on both vapour phase and liquid phase injection, which you're welcome to expand if you have the relevant information. Also, this is an encyclopeia - historical information is important and ideally should not be lost to future generations. If there is historical information in the article, the text should identify this fact but not omit the information for being historical. --Athol Mullen 22:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LPG Autogas

LPG Autogas is available on the forecourt stations of Shell in the UK and Autogas Limited manufactures it. - - Autogas Ltd is a joint venture between Calor Gas, a leading LPG (liquefied petroleum gas) company and Shell. By Shell selling Autogas it has made LPG an alternative to petrol and diesel. --Chris Marchant 16:33, 10 June 2007 (BST)

[edit] Belgium

Just like to add that lpg is quite popular and widely availabe in Belgium. It should be added to the country list.

[edit] Tank pressure

What's a typical full tank pressure? There are no operating pressures mentioned too. Arny (talk) 18:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I know from experience that the tank pressure is in the order of 100PSI. You're right, it would be useful to add. I'll have to find a reference that states tank pressures and add it unless someone beats me to it. --Athol Mullen (talk) 09:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Updated information as of Dec 2007

I just installed my autogas system on a Hyndai Tucson 2006, and the results have been incredble!. I'd like to add information to the article. Feel free to give me some feedbacks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafaelrod (talk • contribs) 14:54, 23 December 2007

[edit] Reasons

Why is autogas chosen or not over diesel oil or gasoline? The article only mentions price but that is very dependent of the respective taxes. So why do whole countries not switch to mostly one fuel? Are there differences in cost of maintenance or power or autonomy or risk? --84.20.17.84 (talk) 16:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] the number of cars run on LPG in thailand

why would other people don't use LPG? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.226.225.254 (talk) 01:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] tng?

well this is kinda embarassing but I was redirected to this page from tng, and i was expecting a star trek article. I really have no problem with tng redirecting here except there's no explaination on the page for what "tng" means —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.245.220.53 (talk) 08:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The redirect made no sense to me, and appears to have been vandalism. It now points to Star Trek: The Next Generation as it originally did. --Athol Mullen (talk) 10:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Connecter incompatibility

Does the use of incompatable connectors (Acme thread, Dutch Bayonet and Italian) create difficulties for motorists in border areas or visiting neighbouring countries (e.g. Netherlands/Belgium, Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland, Austria/Germany, Italy/Switzerland etc ) ? 86.112.238.238 (talk) 13:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Being in Australia, where we use only the ACME thread, I can't really answer the question as well as someone from Europe should be able to. However, I have read in a UK usenet group that adapters are commonly available and that people traveling from the UK to Europe will usually buy the adapter(s) that they will need before they leave. It would be nice to add such information the article if someone can properly reference it. --Athol Mullen (talk) 02:51, 13 April 2008 (UTC)