Talk:Australian Pink Floyd Show
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Ummm... some of the text for this article is lifted direct (cut and paste style) from the website of the band (improper punctuation and all). Is that really correct from the standpoint of plagiarism and overall integrity of the wiki? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.146.167.74 (talk • contribs).
Criticism of the punctuation may be a legitimate exercise if we wish to preserve the dignity and beauty of the English language-but the history of the band as recalled on the website is accurate, even if it is a commercial tool for advertising the band as well .I know it to be true because of my personal connection with the band. However- TAPFS is a 'tribute' band and there are few if any proper scholarly treatments of the 'tribute band' phenomenon.Indeed I would even venture to suggest that 'tribute' bands are generally viewed ( and perhaps unfairly in some instances)as some sort of inconsequential ephemera despite the fact that a band such as TAPFS has indeed played in Arenas across the globe and is a very popular touring act in it's own right. So why TAPFS might be considered to be ephemeral whereas something like the Berlin Philharmonic (which also plays the music of other composers)is considered to be something more worthy of note is something I find rather strange. There are, nonetheless many written interviews in existence concerning TAPFS which can be viewed if one wishes to scour the internet. Of course-whether these interviews will satisify the requirements of the wiki project remains to be discussed since many of these interviews are published in promotional articles and so may be deemed to be 'unreliable' sources. However that does not mean that the statements made in the interviews are false and I can of course cite myslf as a reliable source regarding any statements concerning TAPFS but my connection with the project would make it difficult for me to pose as an 'objective' contributer. Any suggestions as to what I should do?Godfinger 01:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the 'importance' of the article here are some starter references that may help to improve this article :
There is a mention of TAPFS in the Rough Guide Music Series paperbacks called 'The Rough Guide to Pink Floyd' by Tony Manning. Published 31 August 2006
There is a mention of TAPFS in the book 'Pink Floyd' by Patrick Humphries.Published by Andre Deutsch Ltd 23 Sept 1997
The book 'Echoes - a complete history of Pink Floyd' is written by Glen Povey who managed the band in the early years of TAPFS in the UK (1993-1995)
There is an article in the Sun in the 'Something for the Weekend' section entitled 'Tribute to the Masters' Sunday May 20 2007.
There is an interesting article on the tribute scene that includes comments by Jason Sawford and Chas Cole in the 'Film and Music' section of The Guardian May Friday 18 2007 Godfinger 14:03, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] False claims!
* Recreated David Gilmour's guitar set up, including the rare box used to create the seagull sounds in Echoes (of which only four are said to exist, the other three being owned by Gilmour). Gilmour has stated however that no such stompbox exists.
This is rubbish. The 'seagull' effect is achieved with a backwards-wired wah pedal. Swap the input and output cables, open the pedal fully, and use your volume/tone controls to adjust the pitch of the high-pitched sounds that come out. Works best with Cry Baby pedals, and - I think - Vox Wah pedals, and requires single-coil pickups I think. Anyway, enough geek-talk, this claim is false and I'm removing it! SJH 23:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
The claim is not entirely false. The box that is used by Steve Mac to recreate the seagull effect was made by Pete Cornish-who has I believe designed components for Dave Gilmour himself. It may be true that a similar effect is obtained with other pedals but there is a specifically customised 'seagull effect' box in existence. Steve Mac owns two of them. I have seen them with my own eyes. The claim about only two or more in existence probably comes from Steve's conversation with Pete Cornish-who according to Steve Mac, impled that Dave Gilmour had a box and so did Steve Mac and that the are no other specifically designed 'seagull' effect boxes as such. This comment, which I was privy to from Steve Mac has probably filtered out to several people including the author of the article. It may have been mentioned in an interview. I will investigate this further. Godfinger 01:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Interesting points - thanks for your input here. I've done a bit more research and have found photographic evidence that Gilmour's seagull effect was achieved using a reverse wired wah pedal: http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=182. Scroll down to the section on The Wall tour and you can see a switch on his Cry Baby pedal that reverses the polarity. But I don't doubt that boxes to achieve a similar effect are in existence. SJH
