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[edit] Protocols of the Elders of Zion

This article claims that the ALOR openly promotes this document, yet any evidence of this claim is absent from its website. I am thus remiving this claim, and other unsubstantiated claims that reveal a POV. User: Maximus Meridius.

A google search for references to the Protocols on the ALOR website brings up at least 11 results in which they refer to it as being true. Furthermore, the book, alongside such other classics as Mein Kampf, is available for purchase in the ALOR's Heritage bookstore.
"...they have also been accused of being associated with the Australian National Socialist Party" is not a POV statement. They are accused of being associated with the ANSP in David Harcourt's (at the time) definitive work on 20th century Australian neo-Nazism, Everyone Wants To Be Fuhrer (1977?) Drett 18:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

If the accusations are unsubstantiated, which in this case they are-there are no sources referenced-the claims appear to express a POV. I do not oppose these accusations on the proviso that they are sourced. "They have been accused" is simply not good enough, and as you are no doubt aware this term is often used to lend credence to individual value judgments, and to provide an undeserved appearence of impartiality. Furthermore, Ebay, Angus and Robertson, Bartleby's all sell "Mein Kampf", would you describe these organisations as Holocaust deniers? Circumstantial evidence in inadmissable in an encyclopaedia. Until you reference these claims, I will keep deleting them. Maximus Meridius 03:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Material restored... plus some fantastic references. Drett 18:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attempt to take over NPA

I've added a paragraph about the League's little-known but near-successful attempt to take over the National Party. Peer review and merciless editing welcome. Can anyone provide citations? My knowledge of this event comes from my father, who was one of the people who worked hard to keep the League out of the NPA.

Also:

  • I changed "The League is based on the principles of Christianity ..." to "The League claims to be based on the principles of Christianity ...".
  • Wikipedia should have an article about Eric Butler.
  • This article should mention Eric Butler.

Chris Chittleborough 14:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alleged CIA Funding

My father also tells me that the League of Rights flourished during the 1950s, with lots of activities, energetic recruiting and well-funded publications. Much later, he says, it came out that the CIA had given them US$1,000,000 to "fight communism". I have no reason to doubt this story (it would not be the only time a lunar right group got US gov't money in the name of fighting communism) but I also have no usable citations. Chris Chittleborough 08:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] League of Rights and One Nation

Does anyone have a reference/citation for the links between the ALOR and the One Nation Party? My understanding is that one of the reasons David Oldfield and David Ettridge set up that bizarre organisational structure was to prevent ALOR from infiltrating and subverting ON. Of course, (1) I might be wrong, and (2) there would almost be certainly be some sort of linkage, though possibly nothing formal. Cheers, CWC(talk) 23:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Here's some good ones: [1] [2] [3] ... One of the chapters in Pauline's book was written by someone from ALOR too, if I recall. Drett 01:48, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that. (I should have remembered about Graeme Campbell.) Cheers, CWC(talk) 06:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] League of Rights and National Action

I've put a {{Fact}} tag on this. Although they're both far right, National Action uses the Eureka Flag and is strongly republican, whereas ALOR is strongly monarchist. --Apeloverage 10:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I too find this association to be unlikely, FWIW. CWC 10:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
David Greason (one of the founders of NA) was quite involved in ALOR. I'm aware that some NA people (like Ross May) are also connected, will try and find a good source. Drett 01:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)