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[edit] Australian Formula 3

Shouldn't this refer to the Formula category that ended in the 70's? F3 in Australia is now FIA Formula 3 and there is no such thing as Australian Formula 3 in the current CAMS manual. At a minimum ANF3 should be mentioned.xbgs351 04:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Not really. Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia, so referring to the article as Australian Formula 3 is to distinguish it from British Formula 3, the F3 Euroseries, French F3, German F3, Italian F3, South American F3 and so on. We should not let pedanticism get in the way of lay people understanding the content of the article. Always remember in composing a Wiki article that sometimes it will be necessary to compromise the content to make it understandable to the bulk of Wiki browsers who may not know a thing about the intracacies of how Australians label their open wheel raicng classes. --Falcadore 06:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
You would agree that a section on ANF3 should be added? Xbgs351 03:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
As there would not be a great level of detail about ANF3, and also additionally since ANF3 was probably related to the earlier incarnation of international Formula 3, I'd prefer to see it as within the same article. Also, was it ever referred to as ANF3? If not we should not be inventing history that did not exist previously. I think the term Australian Formula Three is big enough for both categories in the same way that the Australian Touring Car Championship is not broken up into seperate articles for Appendix J, Group C, Group A. --Falcadore 06:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes there was ANF1, ANF2 and ANF3Xbgs351 01:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Considering the number of people that might potentially be interested in ANF3, I think this article can cover it quite adequately. For the majority of people Formula 3 is Formula 3. Let's not subdivide things too far. A question, was ANF3 related to the F3 in use in Europe at the time? --Falcadore 02:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Whatever happened to the ANF3 content? --Falcadore (talk) 03:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be better to rename this article "Australian Formula 3 Championship" as that seems to be and is likely to remain the dominant aspect of the article. GTHO 08:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
As the series is not actually called "Australian Formula 3 Championship", but rather the Australian Drivers' Championship that's probably adding to confusion. --Falcadore (talk) 03:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Reference to [1] will reveal that there is indeed an "Australian Formula 3 Championship" and that there has been since 2001. From 2005, CAMS has awarded the "Australian Drivers' Championship" based on the results of the AF3C. Please refer to [2] GTHO (talk) 09:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
You know I know that, and you know that's also a technicality lost on fair percentage of wikipedia's audience. Just as there is also still an Australian Touring Car Championship awarded but everyone calls them the V8 Supercar champion. OK, how about, the series is not called "Australian Formula 3 Championship" anymore, with the ADC tag given greater precedence except when mentioning the series sponsor I belatedly note. ADC or Kumho AF3C, but not AF3C. --Falcadore (talk) 15:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

(indent reset) The following question was recently sent to CAMS: “I understand from CAMS Bulletin B08/014 that the winner of the 2008 Australian Formula 3 Championship will be the winner of the 2008 Australian Drivers’ Championship. Does it then follow that second in the AF3C means second in the ADC, and the same for third etc? Does it also follow that 1st in the National Class of the AF3C mean first in the National Class of the ADC? Or is the ADC simply an award for the winner of the AF3C?” The response was “As far as I am aware, the ADC is simply an award for the winner of the AF3C”. Perhaps we should document the full 2008 AF3C results in a 2008 AF3C article and limit any 2008 ADC results record to the winner only, with suitable cross-referencing of course. 2005, 2006 & 2007 AF3Cs could be treated the same way. At the moment we have an article entitled Australian Formula 3 which is almost entirely about the Australian Formula 3 Championship and then when you click on the table entry for the 2007 AF3C you are directed to a page headed 2007 Australian Drivers’ Championship. Now that is confusing!!! GTHO (talk) 10:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

No more so than any other category... which leads into, is this practice only for Formula 3 or has it extended backwards through Formula Holden/AF2/Pacific/5000 etc. --Falcadore (talk) 02:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gold Star

The top paragraph of the article make it sound like AF2 was the Goldstar. It was once, but was Formula 4000 most recently.Xbgs351 03:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bruno Senna

Removed him as AusF3 alumni. One non-champ event is a very tenuous connection. --Falcadore 11:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kumho Tyres

Unless Kumho has sponsored the entire history of Formula 3, unlikely as it probably pre-dates Kumho, then reference to a sponsor really belongs on the page relevant to that year's championship, like here! --Falcadore 02:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)