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[edit] List of works needed

It seems this stub is an offshoot of the wine-related entries. I would have expected to see a list of Ausonius' written works here. he is also cited (for example by Reinach) for his comments on some Gaulish language vocabulary:

Matrona nom, Gallos Belgasque intersita fines (Ausonius, Mos. 462) Divona Celtarum lingua, fons addite divis (Ausonius, Urb. xiv, 32)

I have not added this to the main article as I am unsure of the full titles of the works whose abbreviations are cited above. in fact, I came to Wikipedia looking for that information :) --Nantonos 16:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gay

From LGBT rights in Spain:

The poet Ausonius (310-395) maintained a passionate relationship with Paulinus, bishop of Nola. It is not known if that love was physical, but their passion was reflected in the correspondency they kept. The letters from Ausonius, 43 years the senior of Paulinus, also show his sadness regarding their separation when the latter intensified his Christian life. Even San Agustín confessed to having homosexual lovers in his youth, although he would later reject that lust as sinful (Homosexuality. A history de Colin Spencer ISBN 1-85702-447-8).

I leave to you to judge whether Spencer is notable or rigorous enough to be mentioned. --84.20.17.84 11:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Works and other things

I have PDFs of the Loeb's editions (2 vols.) of Ausonius and will see if I can come up with a list of Works. I noticed that the editor of this page reinstalled a reference that I deem not very relevant--whatever gives rise to the California Gold Rush has no bearing on Ausonius or even on his description of a mill. Moreover, and given that this is still a brief article, it places far too much emphasis on matters barely related to the man; the paragraphs on 'Saw Mill' overwhelm the other text, and the picture of a mill thus appears as filler. Now, if the editor wants to keep the irrelevant reference, that's fine, but at the very least I wanted to make this point in writing: there is much more to Ausonius than wine and the single mention of a mill, and the article as it stands does not give a very good impression of who Ausonius was or why he matters.

Michel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.157.121.92 (talk) 18:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I added the picture of the mill since Ausonius's brief mention of the mill is very significant, and one reason why he is remembered in the History of technology. So, far from being irrelevant, the insert is highly relevant, and makes this article much more interesting than it was before. If you have some interesting additions on his life and works, feel free to add them. Peterlewis (talk) 19:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The picture, sure--but does the Gold Rush make the life of a Latin grammarian more interesting? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.157.121.92 (talk) 15:25, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Serendipity makes any article more interesting to the increasing number of readers and the public who are becoming fascinated by the classical world. Is the article(or any other, for that matter) only to be read by Latin grammarians??? Peterlewis (talk) 15:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I note that the good article criteria include "stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary details". If I'd been reviewing this article for GA status, I would have failed it on that account. As an individual reader, I don't think a digression like this does any harm while the article is quite short, but I'd find it very annoying to have my reading of a longer article slowed down by multiple paragraphs about how something the subject happened to mention once developed centuries after his death. A sentence like "Ausonius' Mosella includes one of the few ancient references to the use of a water mill for cutting stone" would fit neatly after the sentence about viticulture, and would allow the interest reader to follow up the history of water mills by clicking through to the relevant article. EALacey (talk) 18:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted the ref to the gold rush, but stand by the rest. Peterlewis (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)