Talk:Atmel AVR

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[edit] Archiving Discussions

I've archived the discussion page - it was getting quite long - also there are no currently active discussions so now seemed a good time. -- Rehnn83 Talk 11:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brief history

It is believed the AVR basic architecture was conceived by two students at the Norwegian Institute of Technology (NTH) Alf-Egil Bogen and Vegard Wollan.[1]

I tought this to be true, why is it only "believed"? Is this very hard to confirm somehow? --85.165.225.33 16:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I also thought it was true - I will try and find a reference to back this up. -- Rehnn83 Talk 07:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Can someone devise a timeline for the AVR devices? I.e. when the first AVR was commercially available (and which one was it), when the Mega series started to come out (I think it was 2000), Tiny series, etc. Would be useful to give some perspective on how long the AVR has been around. Dave 18:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Dave, I'm interested in seeing a timeline as well, and thought I might be able to help. I have been a long time AVR user, since 1999 or so. I have an Atmel databook dated May 1997, which includes the 1200, 2313, 4414, and 8515. So they were commercially available at least then. However, I don't know if that's a reliable-enough source, "Pfagerburg has a book in his basement that says so." What do you think?
I can piece together a lot of the early chips (2323 and 4433 with ADC's, 2343 8-pinner, Mega103 and Mega603, Tiny's all came after the M103/M603, etc.) from memory, but not with good dates, and again, memory doesn't exactly meet WP:RS. I tried googling for "history of Atmel AVR" and didn't get anything useful.
I have a few contacts at Atmel that I might be able to ask about the history and a timeline, if that works for a source. Any ideas? --Pfagerburg 02:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
You know what might be really neat is a history-slash-derivation tree, kind of like you see for all the revisions of Unix and unix-like systems. Show the first four chips, then the 2323 coming from the 2313, the 4433 coming from the 4414, etc. As the mega's and tiny's show up, new entries are added, some linking way back (tiny2313 to the 2313, mega8515 to the 8515, etc.). But of course we need the data first. --Pfagerburg 02:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Atmel avr logo.png

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I have removed the image from the main article, until such time as it can be uploaded with a fair-use justification. Pfagerburg 05:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing PRESTO

Smishek, I removed your edits for AVR PRESTO. There are many (tens, perhaps even 100) third-party programmers available for the AVR; giving each one a section would make the article overly long. And surely there are more popular programmers to list before the PRESTO, such as Kanda or the build-your-own parallel port bit-banger used by uisp and many other open-source programs. It should be sufficient to point to an all-encompassing website like avrfreaks to get a complete list of third-party tools, rather than promoting one or more of them specifically. Pfagerburg 05:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dead link to Wikibooks

The link to Wikibooks "Embedded Systems" is dead, for in Wikibooks the chapters in the Book "Embedded Systems" use slash as delimiters, whereas the template uses colon as default, that results in the broken link "Embedded Systems:Atmel_AVR" instead of "Embedded_Systems/Atmel_AVR". I am not sure if one should correct the template or the link. Alaudo 11:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Per Template_talk:Wikibookspar#New_template_syntax_confusion, I left the middle field blank. Yes, it's gronky. But it's fixed now. Pfagerburg 15:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, I've created an account on Wikibooks (same account name as here) and will be addressing the Embedded Systems/Atmel AVR section. [1] Pfagerburg 17:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)