Talk:Atlantic Rowing Race
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[edit] Solo rowers
It makes no sense to say that Chris Martin was the winner of the solo category when he was disqualified, as indicated later in the report. Chris Martin and Roz Savage were the only male and female solo rowers respectively to take part, both completed the crossing but both were disqualified.
Roz Savege was disqualified from the race on the technical grounds that she failed to pass the finish buoy, while Chris Martin failed to complete the crossing unsupported, being supplied with water and oars to enable him to finish. This is not recomended by the Ocean Rowing Society for ocean crossings.
It would be better just to say that "there were two solo rowers who both completed the crossing" - Neither won or lost!
Geoff2DoThat 21:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Needs rewriting
This article needs substantial re-writing. Understandably, as it was obviously written by someone involved with the 2005 Woodvale Events race, it is too heavily slanted towards that race with insufficient history.
1. It is misleading to state earlier in the article that the winners of the pairs division was Spirit of EDF Energy, and then to state that they came second in the final adjusted positions. Spirit of EDF Energy were therefore not the winners of the pairs division, and this should be made clearer.
2. Much of the article is incorrectly written in the present tense.
3. The article title is Atlantic Rowing Race, not the Woodvale Atlantic Rowing Race 2005. It is incorrect to state, as the opening paragraph does, that: the Atlantic Rowing Race is from La Gomera in the Canary Islands to Antigua, is organised by Woodvale Events, and first took place in 1997. The first race in 1997 was from Tenerife to Barbados and was organised by the Challenge Business Limited. There has also been one race organised by the Ocean Rowing Society.
4. Ideally there should be a section on each race from 1997 onwards.
Rather than just tut from the side, if I find the time I shall seek to remedy some of the above issues.
Just a thought for discussion - should this article be scrapped and merged with the article on 'Ocean Rowing'?
wikifellow 5 Oct 06
[edit] Re-written 27 Nov 2006
I have made some substantial changes to this article - although I have mostly been adding information rather than deleting existing information.
As it stood, the article only covered the 2005 race, and contained several inaccuracies.
I have corrected the introduction (for example it isn't true to say the the Atlantic Rowing Race is from La Gomera to Antigua - the first race was from Tenerife to Barbados and there have been variations since then).
I have added some detail on the earlier races, although most of the article is still concerned with the 2005 race - but as this is the most recent I think that is fair enough.
Finally I have tidied up some of the detail previous editors have written about the 2005 race: some corrections over race positions (EDF did not win the pairs class and Chris Martin did not win the solo class. If he was disqualified, he did not win. Harsh but fact); and the tense wondered randomly between past, present and future. This is an encyclopedia that reports facts, and all individual race facts are past tense.
All changes made in good faith, but I am pretty confident that the detail is correct. One thing I couldn't find was whether any boats dropped out of the 2003 Woodvale sponsored race - there aren't any easy to find archives summarising the race unlike the first two.
DanByles 15:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Finishing order v Final positions 2005 Race
Although the pairs result has been altered to show that EDF Energy crossed the line first, but their final position was second, the article still states that the Winning Fours Team was All Relative, but lower down shows that they were relegated to third, so were not the "winning team" at all.
The article already has paragraphs about Line honours and Final positions. To avoid continuing confusion about the results - I suggest two lists:-
1) Line honours - The order the boats crossed the line
2) Final position - The positions after penalties had been enforced
Quite happy to do this if no-one objects
Arjayay (talk) 09:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Have tried to explain Line Honours, Final Positions & penalties without too many lists Arjayay (talk) 16:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
