Talk:Athenian pederasty

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This article is sloppy with sources. For the moment, I'll just refer to some assertions about Solon.

1) laws regarding pederasty are wrongly attributed to Solon in the section 'Law'. This attribution is based on a very poor reading of the historic source, the speech by Aeschines. Read the source! Aeschines is talking about lawgivers in general. The context of the speech is clearly anachronistic.

2) Solon is asserted to be the founder of the pederastic tradition in Athens in the section 'History and Artistic Record'. What's the source for this? I suspect it's a case of Aeschines being misapplied yet again.

This nonsense has to be cleared up. Lucretius (talk) 08:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)