Talk:Ashikaga Yoshimasa

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[edit] Akamatsu Norinao

The following was temporarily removed from the text because it lacks the verifiable support of an in-line citation. Without more, this could be merely spurious:

• Like most shoguns, he practiced the shudo tradition, taking Akamatsu Norinao as his wakashu. A number of Ashikaga shoguns chose their beloveds from the Akamatsu family. Norinao, granted lands at the time in possession of Yamana Sozen, was attacked by the latter and took his own life. This is said to have been another factor leading to the Ōnin War.

-- <.ref>The Love of the Samurai: A Thousand Years of Japanese Homosexuality by Tsuneo Watanabe and Jun'ichi Iwata<./ref>

These bare statements, standing alone, are inadequate without more -- without some sort of better developed context and possible internal links to other articles in Wikipedia ...? --Tenmei (talk) 22:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unverified statement

I've removed the following statement because I think it is incorrect. The teenage Yoshimasa became Seii Taishogun six years after the death in 1443 of his older brother, the seventh shogun Ashikaga Yoshikatsu. If someone can provide a citation which verifies this as correct, then of course it should be re-integrated into the article text. --Tenmei (talk) 15:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)