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[edit] Nicetas Choniates
It is very possible that the Asens were of Wallachian (Romanian) or Cuman origin. At that time both ethnic groups lived north of the Danube and contacts across the river were commonplace. Serious Bulgarian historians (here I exclude the present director of Sofia's National History Museum, prof. Bozidar Dimitrov) do not object this possibility. If anyone objects a thesis, he must either present strong evidence or shut up. I would not be surprised if people like prof. Dimitrov would oppose any mentioning of the Vlachs in the Bulgarian history, I've personally heard him saying that "Romanians have no history so they are forced to make it up". On the other hand, some Romanian scholars absolutely deny the influence of the Bulgarian medieval state, language and culture in Romania - while exactly the opposite can easily be proved in any conversation between a Romanian and a Bulgarian speaker, when they would be surprised by huge number of common words, although the two languages are of different (Romanian is of Latin, and Bulgarian of Slavic) origin.
Don't forget to mention Nicetas, who was, I believe, the first to say that the Asen brothers were Vlach. --Anittas 00:41, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Ashina
- It's not impossible that there is a link between the Asen dynasty and the Ashina Turkic royal clan.
Of course, it's also not impossible that the Asens were beings from another planet. But in Wikipedia we need Reliable sources. Is there any such source that mentions the link ? bogdan 16:36, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Asen is an Aramaic surname. It is common, even today throughout Europe, the Balkans and the Middle East. There are a lot of famous Asens just do some googling. I guess it was a Jewish dynasty ruling the Second Bulgaro-Wallachian Empire. Balkan "historians" are really annoying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.119.248.11 (talk) 16:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
