Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zurn

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete, so article kept. Johnleemk | Talk 12:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zurn

advertisement, promotional

• Delete - advertisement JoJan 09:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete advertising --Halal 09:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

• Comment copyright violation from: [1]. --Halal 21:28, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

• I just wanted to add Zurn on here because you have other companies, like Kodak, etc. I didn't see anything wrong with that. Zurn is over a century old and is a reputable plumbing manufacturer. If you people want to exclude Zurn, fine. But if you do you have also destroyed my faith in Wikipedia, which I have promoted and shared with anyone who would listen to me.

If you have a problem with Zurn, why do you still have other companies listed on your site? Isn't that a little crooked to allow some and not others? I do not work for Zurn, but I do know of them quite a bit through my business here in Florida. My intent was merely to provide an informational article on the company. Why is this being done? Do you not have links to a company's website on other articles? I can list a few if you'd like.

I'm sorry but I just don't see how this is fair or right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.105.45.10 (talk • contribs)

• Comment. The problem with this article is not that Zurn is a company (just like Kodak) and that companies don't deserve articles. The problem is that the article as written is overly promotional in nature, and is mostly a copy/paste from Zurn's website, making it a copyright violation. If you want to save the article, it needs to be rewritten to explain why Zurn is an important plumbing company (assuming that it is), how Zurn's products work, a little about the history of the company, etc., and remove any unsubstantiated claims (e.g., "one of the largest plumbing products packages in the world"). If Zurn really is over 100 years old (and didn't just acquire an older company to assume their incorporation date), they should indeed have an article, but this isn't it. --Stephen Deken 22:22, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

• FYI - I just spoke with Phil Pedano in Zurn's marketing dept. The material in this article is ok to use. Sheesh. lol If it's that big a deal I'll delete it. :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by JKough (talk • contribs)

• Keep. JKough, this article is perfectly salvagable; don't delete it just because it's on AfD! I've rewritten the article to read more like an encyclopedia article and I strongly encourage the above editors to re-evaluate it. It's still a stub, and it could probably use more polish, but it's worth keeping. --Stephen Deken 19:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
• Wow, thank you. It does sound a lot better! I appreciate the help. --Jessica Kough

• delete advertisement Pete.Hurd 05:48, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Not an advertisement. Fg2 11:20, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Izehar 16:42, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.