Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wiley W. Hilburn

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The result was Keep. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:56, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiley W. Hilburn

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Yet another in the string of well-written but tragically non-notable biographies by Billy Hathorn, this one on a newspaperman. The article makes no real assertion of notability, and take a look at the sources: most of them are pages hosted by LA Tech (the subject's employer), others are samples of writing, and still another is simply an obituary of the subject's mother. No one likes to see a decent piece of writing go, but this is just not up to snuff. —dustmite 19:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

• I'm inclined to say Keep on this one, in light of the number of books he's written. As Billy will no doubt confirm, I'm near the top of his list of critics when it comes to his unusual interpretation of WP:RS and WP:N, but that doesn't mean all his contributions are invalid. — iridescent 20:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Comment I'll admit that I was hesitant nominating this article, and do consider it a borderline case. It might be worth noting, though, that his books are put out by small (and apparently one-book) publishing companies and have Amazon sales rankings of 2-3 million at best. A Google search for one of his books turns up practically no relevant hits. For these reasons, I consider his books relatively unimportant; I myself have an uncle-in-law who has two volumes of published poetry, and I assure you, he is far from notable. :) Anyway, my two cents' worth. —dustmite 21:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Was actually chair of the Journalism Department at Louisiana Tech University, which together with his awards (admittedly, local awards), and the books, possibly makes for a certain amount of real notability. Writing articles like this which give equal emphasis to his cousins and in-laws and parents, siblings, and children, does tend to obscure things. I wish we could find some way of convincing the author that all individuals should not get a write-up in exactly the same length and format .DGG (talk) 01:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep per DGG. And this needs much better sourcing. Nburden ^(T) 07:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep

Here's proof of notability:

From Wikipedia: Pages in category "Louisiana Political Museum and Hall of Fame inductees" There are 68 pages in this section of this category.

A

A. Leonard Allen Oscar K. Allen B

Jesse Bankston Kathleen Blanco Hale Boggs Lindy Boggs Kenny Bowen John Breaux Victor Bussie

C Jefferson Caffery James Carville William C. C. Claiborne Harry Connick, Sr.

D Jimmie Davis Charles and Virginia de Gravelles Charles W. DeWitt, Jr. Bill Dodd Hunt Downer

E Edwin Edwards Allen J. Ellender

F Jimmy Fitzmorris Murphy J. Foster, Jr. Murphy J. Foster Douglas Fowler

G Camille Gravel Francis Grevemberg Dudley A. Guglielmo

H John Hainkel Wiley W. Hilburn

J William J. Jefferson Bennett Johnston Jr. Eddie Jordan (attorney)

K Robert F. Kennon

L Mary Landrieu Moon Landrieu Dudley J. LeBlanc Harry Lee Bob Livingston Earl Long Gillis William Long Huey Long Jimmy D. Long Russell B. Long Speedy O. Long

M Wade O. Martin, Jr. John McKeithen W. Fox McKeithen Harold B. McSween Henson Moore Ernest Nathan Morial De Lesseps Story Morrison Edgar G. "Sonny" Mouton, Jr.

O John H. Overton

P Mary Evelyn Parker Leander Perez Cecil J. Picard

R Edmund Reggie Buddy Roemer

S Victor H. Schiro Melinda Schwegmann Barbara Boggs Sigmund

T Billy Tauzin Zachary Taylor Francis C. Thompson David C. Treen

W Joe Waggonner Edward Douglass White T. Harry Williams

Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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