Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ultimate Chicken Grill

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, though the result should not be construed as any kind of precedent for other articles in the three "foods" categories noted in the discussion. Individual menu items may be notable (e.g., Big Mac), but this article provides only one source from the corporate website itself. -- Black Falcon ^(Talk) 22:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ultimate Chicken Grill

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queried speedy delete Anthony Appleyard 06:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• Was speedy-deleted as db-corp. And best look at other members of Category:Wendy's foods. Anthony Appleyard 06:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: And perhaps Category:McDonald's foods and Category:Burger King foods as well. ROGER ^TALK 07:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I dont think an encyclopedia is the place for fast food resteraunt menu items unless they exert a lot of notability Corpx 07:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Perhaps merge the members of Category:Wendy's foods into a short list as a section of Wendy's? Anthony Appleyard 08:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Wendy's already has some. Note Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burger King menu items, but also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taco Bell menu and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McDonald's menu items. There's no real consensus on such articles. --Dhartung | Talk 09:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment: I see a huge difference between one article per major fast food chain listing its menu items and individual articles on each menu item, including ephemeral offers, from each chain. Some fast foods items, like the Big Mac, genuinely satisfy the notability criteria, but most don't and should be excluded on that basis. ROGER ^TALK 09:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as lacking non-trivial outside published sources, perhaps worth a mention elsewhere in the relevant place.-h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 10:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - The article is sourced, what harm will it do to keep the article? Many other fast food items have their own article.

Additional CommentWould it be beneficial to have a combined article for "Wendy's Chicken Temptations", which is the brand name for all of their chicken sandwiches.

--Nenyedi ^TalkDeeds_@ 21:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• It is sourced from wendys.com Corpx 21:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Firstly, the harm is to Wikipedia's credibility, and that could be incalculable. Secondly, many of the other fast food articles do not appear to fulfil notability and verifiability requirements. Thirdly, the source is Wendy's own promotional material, which for notability is no source at all. ROGER ^TALK 21:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I would argue that the Ultimate Chicken Grill™ is prepared from a tender grilled whole chicken breast fillet with a delicious honey mustard sauce and crisp fresh toppings on a warm Kaiser roll. ~ Infrangible 10:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Stop it! You're making me hungry. ROGER ^TALK 12:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete the only source is Wendy's itself. No WP:RS, and frankly, makes no assertion of notability at all. I'd {{dbfood}} it if such a speedy criteria existed. Resolute 04:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Yes, but can you deny it has all the flavor with only 8 grams of fat? (I think not.) ~ Infrangible 10:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: Never mind how tasty it is: is it notable enough for Wikipedia? Anthony Appleyard 14:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment It's not just any menu item from a restaurant, it's a product that is available at thousands of restaurants across the world.--Nenyedi ^TalkDeeds_@ 22:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

• Reply: Only at Wendy's restaurants. It's Wendy's that's the common factor; that's what provides the context (and the notability). That's why it would be better to merge this into the main Wendy article or even into a Wendy's menu items article than having separate little articles (with virtually no prospect of expansion) on each of them. ROGER ^TALK 07:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

• A Wendy's menu items article would be deleted right quick if the precedents noted above are any indication. Resolute 13:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.