Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thelibertines.org Forum

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. W.marsh 01:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thelibertines.org Forum

• I'm suprised this even exists, but if it helps and contains valid information (it seems to know more than I do) then leave it be. Take out a bit of crap and the word "enigmatic" and I think it's ok. Enlightened me to "Piss Me Off" and I guess it links other bands to The Libertines, who supported over the time etc.

Lucyhmm 01:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• I seem to remeber an article on thelibertines.org already being deleted. However, if my memory is faulty, this does not seem like an article for wikipedia. It has a list of users and stuff like that. Kind of strange. Deleted the prod so i figured i would put it up for AFD Chris Kreider - Chrislk02 15:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - If my nom did not give it away, i think it should be deleted. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
• Very strange. delete. yandman 15:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

• Comment The initial article was speedily deleted because it was just a page with one or two lines of abuse. It needs work, and once the ridiculous list of users is removed and the article is referenced I cannot see any reason to delete. 217.43.196.55 15:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - I appreciate your quickness to cleanup the list. However, my nomination should have been a little more complete. It is a forum for, "Although the website at thelibertines.org has since ceased to exist". I do not see how this is notable. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 15:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. This site fails WP:WEB. -- Mikeblas 15:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thelibertines.org forum has been crucial to the success of both The Libertines and the British music scene over the past few years. Arguably it's importance has waned over the past year or two, but as has been stated on the discussion page the forum has been mentioned in many music books and magazines, as well as other wiki pages and therefore it seems common sense that it should have it's own wikipedia page. It seems to me that those requesting it's deletion are doing so because they have little awareness of the subject's importance. One of the key uses of wikipedia is to educate and so it is illogical to delete this entry because of a lack of knowledge about the forum and it's associated subjects. As has also been previously mentioned, I'm sure that the page will be cleaned up, with references and the such added. 87.86.104.115 22:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)Sarah

• Delete per WP:WEB. I do like above assertation that the forum "has been crucial to the success of the British music scene" Thank heaven for that, I'd hate to think of British music failing to exist if the forum goes away or anything. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

As you can see from above I clearly stated (and others have done in the discussion page of the actual wiki entry) that it has been crucial to the music scene in this country over the past few years. This is undeniably true when you consider the bands that have had success as a result of promotion/discussion on the forum (see actual wiki article for mentions of these bands), and is supported by the books and magazines in which the forum has popped up - notably the NME and Anthony Thornton's 'Bound Together' bio of The Libertines. The forum stands out as being one on which the members of many bands (Razorlight, Thee Unstrung, Babyshambles, etc), club promotors, music journalists and photographers have frequented. 87.86.104.115 22:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)Sarah

• Note Please sign your comments. Otto4711 22:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - Alot can be said about this users attempts to be save this article through the proper channels. They are trying there best. However, it is not enough to retract my delete vote unless the claims can be cited. Feel free to offer to help this user, it appears as though they could be an asset to Wikipedia. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 22:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

yes, help or advice would be much appreciated. I have not contributed to the page in discussion myself, and have never contributed or edited a wiki page so I have no idea how to go about adding citations and references, but I understand that those who have contributed to the page are making every effort to add the missing info SarahRoe 23:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete I don't see notability. If important in the development of a band, a sentence or two could be added to that band's article to make note of it. It doesn't stand well on its own as an article when evaluated by the standards set out in WP:WEB. Slideshow Bob 14:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.