Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Waterfront

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. NawlinWiki 19:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Waterfront

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This article should be deleted because I feel this is not very notable. There are many other places called "The Waterfront" which may be more notable than the one in Pittsburgh. Perhaps this article should be deleted also because it is mainly a listing showing the stores in the mall, qualifying this as spam or advertisement for this mall. Also, this article failed to cite any sources. HoustonWeHaveAProblem 06:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - putting my vote in. When I think of "Waterfront", this place is probably not on my mind as I live in the Philly area. --HoustonWeHaveAProblem 14:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete, I can't even find an official website or anything. Non-notable strip mall. Also, you don't have to vote after making your nomination. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 16:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete. Mall still has no official website, which is telling, but its historical location might make it notable. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 17:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per rewrite, notability is asserted now. Sorry for changing my vote twice. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 17:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete even tho nominating user's only contribs are to Pittsburgh mall AfD's, this is just a plaza. No plaza needs an article, there are probably 300,000+ in PA alone.--trey 20:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

— HoustonWeHaveAProblem (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. --trey 02:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep -- the site of this open-air shopping mall (it's not a plaza) is on the historical grounds of US Steel's Homestead works plant. It carries with it much history to the region. The mall is also an important aspect of the town of Homestead. It certainly needs some work, though. I'll say here what I said elsewhere, rather than offer something for deletion, search the Web for information on it. Newspaper sources are acceptable and I know many have been written on this locale.--Write On 1983 05:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

• I've searched online for information and haven't found a whole lot -- at least nothing more than trivial mentions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 17:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Take a gander at what I found. It's certainly worth a keep. --Write On 1983 06:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Good job. I nuked the directory, since we don't need that. Now where the heck were all those references when I googled this mall?! Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 17:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm a journalist. I dig through the Internet for fun!! I'd like to add more about the steel mill that once sat there but all I know about is the Homestead strikes. It might not be a heck of a lot, but the land certainly carries a lot of history. --Write On 1983 03:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• I'm leaning toward keep because of what Write On 1983 mentioned about the district's history, though I'm not sure if the mall itself is notable. Obviously there's some history in the steel works that used to be there, and there's a Homestead Historic District listed on the National Register of Historic Places that's listed as, "Eighth Ave. area roughly bounded by Mesta, Sixth, Andrew, 11th and Walnuts Sts. and Doyle and Seventh Aves." On Google Maps, that looks like the intersection of several parallel streets, so I can't tell if the area covered by The Waterfront is part of the historic district. I'll see if I can find any more about this being part of the National Register or any other district. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 04:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• Oh, here we go: The National Park Service developed a digital tour of the Rivers of Steel National Heritage Area. That would certainly provide some more research material, though I'm still unsure about how the current article about The Waterfront would fit into it. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 04:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 07:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 07:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The discussions below probably mean something. ¿SFGiДnts! ^{¿Complain! ¿Analyze! ¿Review!} 04:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The history of land use of that mall is notable since it marks the urban transformation that's taken place.--Kylohk 12:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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