Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Villebillies

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (Non admin closure). Qst 23:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Villebillies

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Non-notable band. My db-band tag keeps getting removed by an anonymous SPA, who is probably the same person or a meat puppet of the original editor, who is an extreme COI violator. Corvus cornix 22:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

• Weak delete Weak keep - They did have an album released by Universal Motown but just one and, according to WP:MUSIC, that's not enough. I was able to turn up some news about them and I get quite a few Google hits, but I can't find anything that gets them past WP:MUSIC. So, delete, but certainly not speedy. Into The Fray ^T/C 00:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Changed to weak keep in light of the tour. That tour, in and of itself, would probably not satisfy WP:MUSIC, but combine it with the release on Universal Motown and I think they squeak by. Into The Fray ^T/C 11:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• • Why not speedy? They have no notability, thus speedy is the proper action. Corvus cornix 00:06, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Because, per WP:CSD, at least as I read it, notability is asserted. Whether it meets the standards to continue to exist here or not is immaterial. Into The Fray ^T/C 00:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Having one released album is not an assertion of notability, per WP:MUSIC. If that were the case, we wouldn't be able to speedy delete any bands. Note that the db-band tag links directly to WP:BAND with a link which mentions "assertion of notability". Corvus cornix 01:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
        • Well, to me, having one album released on a major label is an assertion of notability. WP:CSD is not WP:BAND, regardless of whether the template links or not. To me, it's just a question of whether the article asserts notability, regardless of WP:BAND. I feel it does, so I feel speedy just wouldn't apply here. But, you know, this really rather academic, since we both agree it should be deleted regardless of the process under which it is done. Into The Fray ^T/C 01:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
        • WP:CSD#A7 should be used when there is no assertion of notability. If there something controversial or questionable, the article must be deleted by AfD discussion, where is used notability, verification and reliability of sources. Speedy deletion generally are not used theses policies and guidelines. Carlosguitar 03:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• I am new to wikipedia and I unfortunately did not view the COI guidelines before creating my first article. I now understand as an employee of the band, my association with the subject of an article constitutes a COI violation and I apologize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Villebillieband (talk • contribs) 01:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep [1], [2],[3] it's borderline but they do seem to have enough notability to keep. Ridernyc 22:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep [4] according to WP:BAND Criteria for musicians and ensembles "4. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country, reported in relible sources".--Ky Music Nerd 02:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per above. Greswik 15:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep satisfies WP:BAND points 1 and 10. Martijn Hoekstra 15:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.