Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Midnight Rider

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. There is simply no credible assertion per WP:BIO or any other guideline for an article on this radio show character. If anyone wants to DAB this per Barno I think that is a very good idea.--Isotope23 16:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Midnight Rider

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Fictional, non-important character on a radio show --Whackbagger 17:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect to Dusty Rhodes. It's appropriate, because that is a persona used by wrestler Dusty Rhodes. Kyros 02:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. I had prodded this but it was contested. Mangojuice^talk 17:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete WP:RS, WP:BIO. I do not think that an on-air character that has existed for less than 2 weeks is notable. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 20:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unverifiable, unencyclopedic. · j e r s y k o talk · 01:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:FICT for reasons of previous commenters. No prejudice against creation of a new article under this title for any of:

- the Paul Revere biography video

- the Paul Revere "virtual museum"

- the 1953 movie featuring the Lone Ranger character

- a redirect to the Gregg Allman song (without "The" in title), which also charted when other artists covered it

- a redirect to the Kat Martin novel (without "The" in title)

In fact maybe a disambig page should be set up, as some of the above subjects will be found notable when people with enough interest research them. Barno 04:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - Nomination for deletion is created under false, bias pretenses, due to the fact that the person playing the role is very maligned in the XM community. Rider is a character that Dave McDonald plays, therefore, it should be kept with editorial notations stating the fact that he is a character. MattyFridays 17:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by MattyFridays (talk • contribs) 17:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC).

The character is already mentioned on Dave MacDonald's page. This fictional character is not notable enough for his own article --Whackbagger 17:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Dave MacDonald was killed at Indy in '64. East Side Dave is another character played by the person Dave MacDonald, but they are two separate, notable characters. And you are not being neutral.

Actually, one more thing, and this is key to your entire argument, Whackbagger - do you have a VERIFIABLE (key word) reference that states Rider is East Side Dave? MattyFridays 18:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, Whackbagger is always speaking in absolutes about The Rider, yet has no verifiable sources for what he is saying. More holier than thou elitist editing which does Wikipedia a disservice.69.140.51.137 09:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• STRONG Delete Wait a sec, let me get this straight... Dave McDonald=East Side Dave=Midnight Rider? And you expect Wikipedia to maintain separate pages for EACH? If you had ONE page for McDonald, noted there that these others are personae, and redirected those names to McDonald I MIGHT vote for it. Better yet would be a page for the show they appear on (sorry, it is so un-notable I cannot remember the name) with a list of the shows cast and all characters each plays. However, and I am gonna say this as plainly as possible... Midnight Rider is NOT notable. Where are independent reliable sources??? Where are news stories in mainstream media about ANY of this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BillWSmithJr (talk • contribs).
• Delete unencyclopedic. --Bill.matthews 18:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Useful to wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flash Virus (talk • contribs). — Flash Virus (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
• Keep Until his identity is revealed there is not enough proof to merge the article with another one.. for now it is useful to wikipedia for listeners of a very reputable radio program who are seeking out information on the show staff. IrisKawling 05:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

He is a producer of Ron & Fez. His content can go in the Ron and Fez article or the List of Ron and Fez Show characters. He is not notable enough for an article. --Bill.matthews 06:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

He is notable enough for his own page, as it was also a persona of Dusty Rhodes, who is a worldwide known figure in professional wrestling. The Midnight Rider page should not be merged with Dusty or East Side Dave

• Keep He is notable enough for his own page, as it was also a persona of Dusty Rhodes, who is a figure known worldwide in professional wrestling. The Midnight Rider page should not be merged with Dusty Rhodes or East Side Dave as it is a completely separate persona.--Hndsmepete 08:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Notability is not subjective. Doing a google search for "the midnight rider" produces no results that relate to the Ron & Fez producer (other than this article). Therefore he is not notable. As a producer for R&F, he is already listed on their article. --Bill.matthews 13:02, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wallop (talk • contribs). (Note well: User's thirteenth edit.)

• Delete, per nom and various others above. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete • There are no strong verifiable sources, and [{WP:N|notability]] is questionable. ✎ Peter M Dodge ( Talk to Me • Neutrality Project ) 16:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, per nom and others. Verifiability and notability are very questionable for this article. SuperMachine 17:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per lack of references and notability. | Mr. Darcy talk 17:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete contra the meats - Tragic Baboon (banana receptacle) 20:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to Dusty Rhodes OR East Side Dave, OR make a disambig page. Mathmo ^Talk 04:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep or Redirect to East Side Dave, OR make a disambig page Nothing should be deleted because several people think its not worthy. Obviously a few people also think it is worthy to be in Wikipedia in some form. Tyrannical editors and their henchman who think they own Wikipedia must be stopped. 69.140.51.137 09:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep If Ron and Fez Show is notable enough to have it's own page and their other Producers East Side Dave and Earl Douglas are notable enough to have their page I see no reason why their collegue, The Midnight Rider wouldn't be notable enough to have his page. This is a Whackbag user with a single purpose out trying to harm The Rider and the Show's reputation and this deletion discussion should be ignored, closed and The Riders page left in tact. Cgbrannigan 11:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC) — Cgbrannigan (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.