Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spot On Public Relations
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:39, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Spot On Public Relations
It's an add copied from the company's press release. - squibix 12:36, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. - squibix 12:36, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- The entry is not copied from anywhere. However, does this mean I can't make any entries about companies? There are already entries for other PR firms cmalin 12 November 2005
- Entries for companies should take into account the guidelines at WP:CORP, to determine whether the company is suitable for an article at all; if the company is suitable, then furthermore the article should be written with a neutral point of view, which means that language which sounds like it comes from a press release is not appropriate. Read over the article again: you can probably see why squibix assumed it was copied from a press release! (No vote.) — Haeleth Talk 15:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- And in fact, it is copied from a press release, except for minor changes: compare the paragraph at the bottom of this page. - squibix 15:29, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Haeleth --> point taken. I run the company so I can ask someone not connected with the company to write something, if it makes a difference. I don't want it to sound like an advert either and have given it another edit. In global terms the firm is not big, in the Middle East it was one of the first on the ground. Squibix --> I wrote the paragraph in that press release and I didn't copy from it, its just stuff I know. Both --> Top marks for due diligence BTW cmalin 12 November 2005
- Wikipedia is not the place for autobiography, be it personal or corporate. Writing about one's own organization is top of the Wikipedia:List of bad article ideas. It can be done, but it requires that one be extremely scrupulous. The way to write about your own company is to base the article entirely upon multiple, cited, sources that are independent of the company itself (and of you), such as third-party corporate biographies and reports. Do not write from your own firsthand knowledge. If there are not multiple independent sources available, then the company simply does not satisfy the WP:CORP criteria. Editors wanting to write Yellow Pages entries for their companies should use Yellowikis, not Wikipedia. Uncle G 19:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Haeleth --> point taken. I run the company so I can ask someone not connected with the company to write something, if it makes a difference. I don't want it to sound like an advert either and have given it another edit. In global terms the firm is not big, in the Middle East it was one of the first on the ground. Squibix --> I wrote the paragraph in that press release and I didn't copy from it, its just stuff I know. Both --> Top marks for due diligence BTW cmalin 12 November 2005
Weakdelete. I'll wait a day on this one. Confirmed noteworthiness. You're in the communications business: write something appropriate for this medium and audience.I could change my mind.Durova 18:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)- I waited the day and saw no improvement. Promotional text is inappropriate. Durova 17:30, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete advert --Rogerd 03:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete advert and non-notable Zunaid 07:56, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Ads. *drew 16:55, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
