Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slam (band)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 00:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Slam (band)
- Delete Does not meet music notability criteria Yannick 05:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep. It doesn't? You may want to read through it again. Formed in 1994 with multiple albums on a label (don't know how big Soma is in Scotland) and they appear to be known in the techno scene. See the allmusic and soma websites and google. Gflores Talk 05:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Relevant criterion is "Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)." Soma records was co-founded by Slam.--Yannick 01:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep. Well known and established artists in the electronica scene. Encise 06:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I think we need an expert's opinion--how many people in Scotland have heard of Fountains of Wayne? M1ss1ontomars2k4 06:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Slam are well known and successful recording artists. Their track "Positive Education" is considered a "classic", as is "Lifetimes" (awarded BBC Radio 1 Pete Tong "Essential New Tune" upon its release ). I live in Australia and have purchased Slam recordings, read about them in numerous print articles and seen them headline at a large capacity venue. AfD for Slam? That's like labelling "Paul Oakenfold" as NN! Encise 23:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Relevant critria are "Has won a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno or Mercury Music Award," and "Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers, personal blogs, etc...)."--Yannick 01:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. Yannick, you're quoting only two of the notability criteria. And actually they meet one of them - they will have been written about in many magazines, some of them major like Mixmag. Amongst others they meet are "Has had a charted hit on any national music chart, in at least one large or medium-sized country", "Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in notable and verifiable sources" and "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture". They also have entries in All Music Guide [1] and Discogs [2]. Stu ’Bout ye! 10:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Furthermore, they are guidelines. An act could be hugely notable whilst failing most parts of WP:MUSIC (c.f. the Velvet Underground circa 1967). --kingboyk 19:24, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Relevant critria are "Has won a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno or Mercury Music Award," and "Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers, personal blogs, etc...)."--Yannick 01:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Slam are well known and successful recording artists. Their track "Positive Education" is considered a "classic", as is "Lifetimes" (awarded BBC Radio 1 Pete Tong "Essential New Tune" upon its release ). I live in Australia and have purchased Slam recordings, read about them in numerous print articles and seen them headline at a large capacity venue. AfD for Slam? That's like labelling "Paul Oakenfold" as NN! Encise 23:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep. Well known in the techno scene, and not just in Scotland. Stu ’Bout ye! 13:15, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Slam and Soma are both well known on the scene. I'm not from Scotland, but I've heard of Slam, Soma, and Fountains of Wayne - why do you ask? --kingboyk 14:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Delete if no links to these so-called mag articles surface on their page. It's rather cheap to start your own record label and any band/artist can start their own label and release any number of discs that never mean a thing. Also, provide NOTABLE artists on the bands label if it is indeed a notable independent label with a roster of notable talent. Showtime203 04:04, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately, of the two main dance music magazines in the UK Muzik magazine has now closed down and Mixmag don't publish their articles on the web. Believe it or not, but there is a world outside www! AMG has them, which is usually considered a pretty indicator. I will however have a search for a few more entries. --kingboyk 13:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC) OK, Soma. The article isn't about them, and Slam are probably their most famous act, although they have other artistes such as Desert Storm and Ege Bam Yasi who are well known to dance music afficionados but probably won't get articles here. BBC article on Slam, "Glasgow's premiere techno twosome". Plenty of Google hits, see [3]. --kingboyk 13:58, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Re. the BBC review - I don't think that a short review counts as being "featured". We are all open to the possibility that this is an underground wonder well reported outside the internet, but please cite specific articles. But whatever happens, please understand I will hold no grudge if I am outvoted or proven wrong on this AfD.--Yannick 15:39, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, of the two main dance music magazines in the UK Muzik magazine has now closed down and Mixmag don't publish their articles on the web. Believe it or not, but there is a world outside www! AMG has them, which is usually considered a pretty indicator. I will however have a search for a few more entries. --kingboyk 13:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC) OK, Soma. The article isn't about them, and Slam are probably their most famous act, although they have other artistes such as Desert Storm and Ege Bam Yasi who are well known to dance music afficionados but probably won't get articles here. BBC article on Slam, "Glasgow's premiere techno twosome". Plenty of Google hits, see [3]. --kingboyk 13:58, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
