Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shinsaku Yanai

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Majorly (hot!) 16:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shinsaku Yanai

Shinsaku Yanai (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

I think this should be deleted because there is insufficient information available on subject on the internet (google searches only come up with hits copying wikipedia's entry), no sources listed on the article page and no real explanation as to notability. John Smith's 11:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak delete due to lack of sources at present - but disregard Ghits in this case as it won't be picking up anything in Japanese. If sources can be found, change to keep. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 12:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment Those "links to news articles" on Talk:Yanai Shinsaku/Delete are actually links to a chat group. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 12:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment Indeed, which is why I relisted this. John Smith's 13:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless sourced 1.6k GHits on Japanese name 柳内伸作[1], but based on my cursory look through them, mostly blogs and people selling his book, not media coverage; excluding "書店" (bookstore) and "amazon" from the results leaves only 290 hits [2]. Anyway, at least this isn't a hoax (e.g. see the bios of him attached to his books on Amazon [3][4] ); I'm open to correction about his notability. If there was any media coverage about him, it would likely be back around 1992 when he got kicked out of the SDF in the first place, but Japanese newspapers aren't nearly as good as US newspapers about making their old archives show up in Google results. cab 14:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Keep, just noticed he has ~15 hits even in English in a Google News archive search; unfortunately, they're all pay archives, but these correspond to some of the newsgroup repostings at Talk:Yanai Shinsaku/Delete. [5] cab 14:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment But is that real notability? Also part of the problem as I see it is that there is so little on this guy - the article will remain a stub pretty much forever. He said one controversial thing and that's about it. Can you imagine how many articles there would be on wikipedia if doing one thing like that meant you could get an article? John Smith's 14:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment Well, he did set a sort of milestone, being the first person to get fired from the SDF for writing a newspaper article, according to the Boston Globe. And there's actually a decent number of sources on this guy, I'm just too cheap to pay to look at them, so I can only expand the articles based on the free summaries. Given that he got that amount of coverage even in the US, I'd imagine coverage in Japan was even greater; I just don't have much clue about searching back issues of Japanese newspaper articles. cab 14:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment I'm not that fussed, I just thought this was a somewhat pointless article created because someone "heard of him and thought it would be an idea to put him in", etc. John Smith's 15:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep apparently notable. If cab will tell us what English sources he needs, perhaps one of us will have them available, and perhaps eds. who read Japanese will also help. DGG 03:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as an insignificant nutball who enjoyed his fifteen minutes. (What's a lot more significant is the enduring existence, even popularity, of the redlinked Shūkan Bunshun, a particularly blatant conveyor of xenophobic drivel to right-thinking Japanese folk.) -- Hoary 01:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.