Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Serbian mafia

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 00:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Serbian mafia

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Non notable organisation, no reliable sources, fails WP:CORP and WP:V Edrigu (talk) 17:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment - I'm not sure something like organized crime would fall under WP:CORP. It's not THAT organized. matt91486 (talk) 17:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, there certainly is a Serbian mafia, and it has been a subject of independent media coverage. See this BBC article, which I also linked to in the article. 96T (talk) 18:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
All the people mentioned in that article are long dead. Edrigu (talk) 18:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Well,the mafia's obviously very efficient, then :-) TreasuryTag talkcontribs 18:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep but add reliable sources. Re-nominate in six weeks if not.-- TreasuryTag talkcontribs 18:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment I see a bunch of articles under Category:Organized crime that divide it by country and use localized names like ___ian mafia. This seems to imply an overall organization which in practice is probably not much more than mutually beneficial conflict avoidance. I wonder if it might be more encyclopedic to retitle all of these Organized crime in ____, which is almost certainly a problem we can expect to find in every country to varying extents, thus encyclopedic. In other words, I think this type of article should exist, although this may not be the best example of such an article. --Dhartung | Talk 19:47, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I actually really like that idea for a general page move. It seems like it's the most correct way of putting it, because there can be organized crime that doesn't necessarily go by the term mafia or whatnot. matt91486 (talk) 20:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
    • "Organized crime in ___" is not the best name, since these articles also deals with the ____ian crime abroad, and not with all organized crime in country x (for example, if the Brutopian mafia is active in Tomalia, you won't find any information on that in the Tomalian mafia article). Therefore, I think "____ian organized crime" is a better name, although some of the names should not be changed, since we actually deal with tight organisations (Mexican mafia is one example). 96T (talk) 20:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep as this certainly meets notability and this can be confirmed by a simple Google search. For those calling for rename keep in mind the term "mafia" has generally become synonymous with organized crime and pretty much all news articles will talk of them as mafia.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 23:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.