Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scottish Gaelic profanity

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. Angr/talk 19:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Gaelic profanity

Before anyone thinks I object to the subject matter, I don't. I've put this up because it's not encyclopedic. Some of the information is inaccurate & misleading, e.g. "rach air muin" does not refer specifically to "doggy style". It also uses the very dubious "insultmonger" as a source. MacRusgail 14:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as unencyclopaedic. I dont know about the accuracy, but WP is not a gaelic dictionary. ::Supergolden:: 14:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary. Monkeyman^(talk) 16:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep interesting cultural data, perhaps flag for fact checking. Whatever the outcome, the article should share a common fate with Quebec French profanity, Spanish profanity, Portuguese profanity, perhaps others. If kept I will volunteer to cover Latin profanity. Smerdis of Tlön 17:04, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - there is some potential to cover profanity in various languages if it is culture-specific. However, this article does not reflect the fact that sexual swearwords are not commonly used in Gaidhlig traditionally, and that when they are, you usually hear the English ones, e.g. fuc. Most profanity was, and still is mostly, of a religious nature. --MacRusgail 14:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete It's totally unreferenced. There's no evidence that any of the profanity actually had/has any currency Dlyons493 Talk 20:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
  • To be fair, some of the phrases are in use, e.g. "thalla gu taigh na galla", but some are mere inventions. No one says "she eats carpets" in Gaidhlig that I know of. --MacRusgail 14:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as unencyclopedia.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 01:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and verify. — Adrian Lamo ·· 07:11, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless verified. Stifle 00:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I agree that it may not be completely accurate, but that can be fixed. Plus, there are already plenty of articles for profanities in other languages as per above comments. Shadow demon 05:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

It's so inaccurate, that it even contains a phrase *I* translated as a joke elsewhere on the Internet. What kind of reliability is that? --MacRusgail 18:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep the mistakes and inaccurate data can be fixed. That is the point of an open-source encyclopedia people! Peer review is suppose to improve on the messed up articles over time. Just blanket deleting b/c you think it's more of a dictionary entry is short-sighted as language and words are foundational to culture, which I think is an encyclopedia type of entry? Either case, people can work and improve upon this article. Deleting it would be a waste in my opinion.
• Delete from Wikipedia per Wikipedia is not a dictionary or slang usage guide. However, a copy of this would be entirely appropriate in a Wiktionary Appendix. Rossami (talk) 06:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, as we have other similar articles, and the wrong info can be fixed. The article is notable. Carioca 21:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, While this article is one i personally find vaguely interesting ( Gaelic being my native language ) it is not accurate nor really the kind of article which should be found on the English Wiki ( id be quite happy for it to be stuck onto the Scottish gaelic one however ). In modern Gaelic speaking society profanity does not really exist - this is due to the religious history of the society i think - and i had to look back to the poems of the Jacobite era to find any literature containing what might reasonably be termed "cuss words" or obscene insults. You could confront almost any native speaker of the language with the words listed and they most likely wouldnt know what youre going on about. An Siarach

A Shiaraich, tha mi toilichte gun do chur sibh facal beag a-staigh. If any article survives this, then I think it shall have to be completely rewritten and made encyclopedic. --MacRusgail 18:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - --MacRusgail 18:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC) (nominator)
• Keep If we can devote whole artices to the English Fuck, Shit, and Crap (which recently survived an AfD), then this can stay. Carlossuarez46 18:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Those articles deal with the cultural contexts and historical usage. This is just a list of terms, and at least 80% inaccurate.

• Strong Keep There are already similar articles for other languages. MacRusgail's objections are content-related, and seem quite fixable, without going for a full-blown delete. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 18:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.