Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saturday Night Live Curse

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sr13 is almost Singularity 08:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saturday Night Live Curse

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Speedy Delete - Fails WP:NOTE, WP:RS, WP:LIBEL and WP:NPOV. A pointless article full of speculation. Not much else to say. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 11:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete and a pox on its house. The references are, in their way, actually kind of funny. Except for the one link to Saturday Night Live's website that actually refers to the curse (obvious a citation with COI issues), all other links are either to the imdb page for the actors or, I love this, to wikipedia itself. -Markeer 12:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Every time a former member of SNL dies under bizarre circumstances, this term is used in various entertainment news broadcasts. This superstition has been propagated through the comedian and entertainment business communities since Farley's demise(ref:[1]), it is fairly well documented ([2], [3]). ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 12:31, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment, arguably, but does that make the subject noteable? Does that make the subject lengthy enough to have its own article? I don't think so. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 12:56, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Okay, with better citations per Anetode this can be considered, but to be honest now my thought is one sentence in the main SNL article ("media has sometimes described the deaths of X cast members as a curse") with a few citations would be more than sufficient, unless someone can come up with some sort of verifiable proof that there is a supernatural agency at work here. I suppose my sarcastic comment above was based largely on the title of this article, since "Curse" is one of those things that always gets the WP Project on paranormal activity in trouble. -Markeer 13:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• The current SNL article appears to be a 95kb dumping ground for trivia and cast/guest lists. I think that it might be wise to split off Saturday_Night_Live_(US)#Cast_member_deaths and the SNL Curse articles into a List of deceased Saturday Night Live cast members. Most of this information already overlaps, a paragraph or two on the "curse" itself should provide a sufficient context. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 13:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• Merge per Anetode's suggestion; the so-called curse is notable enough to be mentioned in some format, but with rewording, and removal of OR. Zidel333 15:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete pitiful and disgusting attempt to twist the sad deaths of 8 real-life people to some kind of "curse", even though their causes of death are varied and not very mysterious: 3 of the 8, for example, died of cancer. The fact that this has existed since April is abhorrent and shows that, very clearly, Wikipedia still has a long way to go. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Andrew Lenahan. The claim of a "curse" is so weak that Andy Kaufman is included in this article, despite the fact that he was never a cast member of SNL, only made guest appearances, and was banned from the show by audience vote. --Metropolitan90 16:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Very weak on sources, lots of speculation. Realkyhick 19:37, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete A TV show now approaching its 33rd season, with hundreds of cast members over the years, none of them yet old enough to die of natural causes... I've seen better curses than THAT. Sports Illustrated Curse, the Kennedy Curse, the Bush Family Curse... sure. But SNL? No. Mandsford 22:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - per WP:NEO. There need to be reliable sources about this term, not just sources that use it. Strongly oppose the notion of a list of deceased cast members. It would not stand at AFD, just as lists of deceased wrestlers, lists of deceased rappers and the like have not stood so don't waste your time on it. Otto4711 18:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.