Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sack of Rome (846)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Whether or not to rename this is an editorial decision.Spartaz Humbug! 20:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sack of Rome (846)

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I have never read nor heard anything of this supposed sack of Rome by the Saracens. It is not listed under any of the other Islam and Italy sections, nor are there any citations. As well, searching other encyclopedias, I have found no mention of this supposed sack (the only things I can find are articles linked to the wikipedia page). I have yet to see anything by any historian, and I find it difficult to believe that only wikipedia would have knowledge of this event. I believe this article to be false, and unless someone is prepared to show any evidence of this event, it should be deleted. I apologize if I have put this in the incorrect category, I have never nominated an article for deletion before. Izzodinapoli (talk) 08:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep but possible rename (no good suggestion at the moment).There obviously was a siege of Rome by the Saracnes in 846. See e.g. this[1], this[2], or this[3], which calls it a (partial) sack. Edward Gibbon called it an "Invasion of Rome"[4]. The attack of the Saracens on Rome in 846 is clearly a well-known event, but whether to call it a sack, invasion, attack, campaign, or whatever is another discussion. Fram (talk) 09:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. I believe this was nominated in good faith, but this is fairly easy to come up with references for as long as you don't limit yourself to "sack of rome 846". It seems that St. Peter's was sacked, but the city walls of Rome held. The name may need to be changed, but I haven't yet found a standard name. --Dhartung | Talk 10:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks guys, "sack of rome 846" is what I used in order to search for sources. If indeed the walls held and St. Peters was at the time outside the walls, it shold be renamed no? It's hardly a sack if they never even made it inside the city.Izzodinapoli (talk) 17:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Rename it "Attack on Rome"? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.