Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russian True Orthodox Church

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. The nominator is advised to seek opinion of colleagues in the future. This article certainly didn't look like spam or vanity or new cult or hoax. And there are quite a few foreign languages if you don't find much in English, and wikipedian who speak these languages. `'mikka 05:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Russian True Orthodox Church

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Personally, I know nothing about this subject but when I came across the article, it looked a little suspect. I'm unaware of any 3rd party sources for this church but the Google test comes up with only around 80 unique hits. As such, I prodded it, but it was removed with the message "de-prod, this is a denomination, and denominations are almost always kept" (I actually have no idea where this logic comes from since most articles are de-prodded by the author and then deleted at AfD). Anyway, I looked at WP:CHURCH and WP:ORG and both mention the requirement of 3rd party sources which this article lacks. However, I am actually neutral and I'm only here to create a place for discussion about the article's inclusion. Axem Titanium 04:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

  • speedy keep. A very notable denomination. --Irpen 04:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Well, if we search in Cyrillic we get [1] 17K ghits of the "True Orthodox Church", [2] 11K ghits on the Cathacom Church and many more hits on other decendants (the church had a lot of schisms and now is divided on 6 indepndent churches). Even without the googlecounting, the church is quite important historically as the only church for Orthodoxes in Russia that did not colloborate with the communist authorities (and have very bad relations with the modern Russian authorities). Thousands of their people were executed, murdered or imprisoned Alex Bakharev 04:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Articles about real religions are better than articles about fictional cartoon characters, of which WP has many. Wasted Time R 04:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. The edit summary almost certainly meant that "articles about religious denominations are almost always kept", as opposed to articles about individual churches. --Dhartung | Talk 04:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.