Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Republic of Molossia

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Republic of Molossia

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This article is written in places "in universe", and it bears 3 maintenance templates. It fails to meet WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:V and WP:N. WP:WEB may also apply. (A note on sources: We have Geocities, the lighthearted Lonely Planet book which is being used to prop up most of these articles, and "Molossia"'s own websites).

Sample quotes: "Molossia's population has remained fairly stable since the nation's establishment in Nevada, at just four citizens." "A sense of humor characterizes most Molossian people, who have a casual and comfortable western lifestyle.". "The culture of Molossia has a generally "western" attitude. The wild horse (mustang) is the National Animal, the sagebrush is the National Plant, Straw Hat Pizza is the National Pizza Restaurant, and Olive Garden as the National Restaurant. Molossia has its own time zone, Molossian Standard Time, which is 39 minutes ahead of Pacific Standard Time or 21 minutes behind Mountain Standard Time." --kingboyk 12:05, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment. Read this

    On the evening of July 3rd, 1999 XXII, covert forces from the United States crossed the Molossian Frontier without permission and buried a dead dog in sovereign Molossian territory. The peace-loving Molossian government responded to this dastardly assault initially with negotiation, to attempt to avoid all-out war. Negotiations failed, however, as the putrid corpse was not removed. Therefore, the Molossian Army was deployed to deal with this underhanded threat to our sovereignty. Siege was laid against our enemy, using our secret weapon, the ceaseless chatter of a hyperactive thirteen-year-old boy. After two weeks of conflict, the siege resulted in the capitulation of the enemies of Molossia. The dead dog, now considerably more decomposed than before the war, was removed. Some time later, reparations were made to Molossia, in the form of a wood garbage can holder. Today, the Dead Dog War Battlefield, and the new grave of The Dead Dog, just over the now-fenced Molossian Frontier, stand as a mute reminder of the horrors of war and of man's inhumanity to man.

Sounds like the nation is a joke to me. --myselfalso 15:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, it's a notable joke; more sources have been added to the article. John Vandenberg 15:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Most micronations can be regarded as a mixture of fiction and biography. If it remains written in in-universe style, delete as unencyclopedic. If rewritten in out-of-universe style; then I think this can be regarded as a weak keep. -- The Anome 17:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • DeleteNon-notable pretend nation. Fails WP:A and WP:N. About as notable as "The Republic of the Chair I am Sitting In to Edit Wikipedia." Edison 21:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless it is link to reality somehow. JodyB talk 22:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and rewrite. AFD is not cleanup. Molossia is probably the best-known "personal artistic project" micronation in existence, and has been around for over 2 decades. Its significance is reflected in the 7-page entry it is given in the recently-published Lonely Planet micronation guide - one of the most extensive in the entire book - larger even than the entry on Sealand. --Gene_poole 22:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, needs cleanup maybe, not deletion is not justified. Lankiveil 01:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC).
  • Keep. After taking some time to consider it, I do believe that it passes WP:N and WP:A. While it is not of mass notability, neither is Albert A. Michelson, who happens to be a very important physicist. Also, suggesting that this article should link to reality is like suggesting that articles relating to fiction should be deleted (like the United Federation of Planets, for example). --myselfalso 05:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep One of the best known micronations, if deleted should at least be mentioned on the Micronation article. ''[[User:Kitia|Kitia'']] 19:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Good point; I'm wondering if micronations which don't have much coverage in reliable sources and/or not much encyclopedic to say about them but which get a writeup in the Lonely Planet book ought to be in an overview article? There was mention in one of the AFDs about a possible Minor micronations (minor sounds a bit POV though) or Australian micronations (wouldn't apply here); other titles might be avilable :) --kingboyk 21:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep because those plucky little molossians make me smile. --Infrangible 20:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
    • My MSN friend in Thailand makes me smile, but I wouldn't start an article on her :) --kingboyk 21:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Keep - although whimsical, Molossia is one of the better known micronational ventures out there. It requires some objective coverage and a large rewrite, but it's not undoable. --Breadandcheese 01:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keeep per myselfalso and genepoole. Both make good points why this should be kept. JRG 23:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.