Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rasmus Teislev Neckelmann

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The result was delete. W.marsh 18:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rasmus Teislev Neckelmann

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Contested speedy. X-Moto has an article, but that doesn't mean that either that (1) its developer rates an article or (2) that the person really is the main or only developer. The links don't help, being in Swedish. Google does come up with 74 hits for the string "Rasmus Teislev Neckelmann", all related to X-Moto in various languages. Herostratus 08:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as nominator. If I miss my guess and X-Moto (whatever that is) is some hugely important thing on the level of World of Warcraft or whatever, then maybe we need to know the parentage and early schooling etc. of its developer; otherwise, not. Herostratus 08:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
  
• Keep as user. While I agree that X-moto is not the big box-office success like World of Warcraft, I would like to place the following argument:
  1) X-moto has grown to become a very popular game worldwide with forums, download pages and a lot of talk on the internet and in communities. The game functions under most platforms (which WarCraft doesn't) and is by that a truly universal game. Exactly in the wiki spirit.
  2) I do not believe that the writer or developer of any intellectual work is unimportant. Considering the implications and in complete accordance with Richard Stallman and his GNU policy that this site also adheres to; it is therefore natural to have an article about the creator of this game. As for whether or not he is the main developer it would be natural to use the Rasmus Teislev Neckelmann article to discuss that. Sourceforge seems to be of that opinion: X-Moto project.
  Summa Summarum
  If we agree that the X-moto Game has it's place on this website (which we seem to have agreed on), and we also agree that wikipedia is an infinite work with the aim of linking knowledge and filling in the puzzle (like the logo seems to imply); I am confident that we can all agree that ideeed this article about the creator Rasmus Teislev Neckelmann is very much in its place.
  P.S: Please note that Swedish and Danish are not the same languages. Easy way for non-Scandinavians to tell the difference is looking for the letter combinations ch and words ending with double consonants, hinting that it is Swedish. Best example being och in Swedish and og in Danish (and in English). Now don't get me started on Norwegian! :o) --Jens Jakob Teislev 15:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Jens, if I am not mistaken, you are his brother. I respect your high opinion about him as a brother, but in a world-perspective, I don't see how a person who is part of the development team of a game that they admit is a clone of another game, should be called notable. I have similar doubts about the notability of the game itself. Wake 03:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep You are not mistaken on that Wake. However I hope that that doesn't mean that we will disregard my argument. Obviously I am not the only that thinks that the game is interesting - amongst other because it can go on my UBUNTU Linux computer. As for the thing with the cloning... hmm think I heard that somewhere else.. ahh yes but let Macintosh and Microsoft fight about that :o). Point taken let's keep nepotism stamped out and see if anyone else will comment on this. Unless WikiDirectives state that the sentence has to be carried out tomorrow at dawn. Jens Jakob Teislev 11:17, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

"The basic gameplay clones that of Elasto Mania...": quoted from X-Moto. Wake 02:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

That's right but you could probably say the same about Doom, Ghost Recon and CounterStrike or Red Alert, Dune, and, and.. right? This is not the argument to follow to remove the developer of the game. Please also notice these internal Wikipedia links obviously a testimony that the X-moto game is a worldwide thing:
WikiPedia France listing
WikiPedia Finish listing
WikiPedia Russian listing
WikiPedia Hungarian listing (and finally but not least)
WikiPedia Portugese listing
Just thought that it might be worth noting considering the notability listing. --jakslev 23:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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