Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randy Harvey
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Eluchil404 00:28, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Randy Harvey
deleteNot Notable JJJ999 03:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Seems to be notable among Toastmasters, even two google news higs from Arab news. Dean Wormer 03:44, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- KEEP. A World Champion in a notable organization (Toastmasters International) deserves to have its own article. Satisfies WP:BIO as far as I can see. Truthanado 03:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- The link is broken, so I'd obviously dispute it. 25,000? Prove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJJ999 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Rebuttal. Apparently Toastmasters revamped their web site. I found an appropriate link and changed the reference so the link is no longer broken. As for 25,000 participants, I couldn't find a reference for that number but it is understandable. If you sift through the Toastmasters web site, you'll find that the competition starts with each club and works its way up through local, area, regional and district competitions. Since our Wiki Toastmasters International article says there are 11,000 clubs, that would mean each club would have 2-3 contestants, which is plausible. I would be in favor of removing the 25,000 claim unless someone can find a verifiable source for it. As far as overall notability, I stand by my original statement - KEEP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthanado (talk • contribs) 19:23, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- The link is broken, so I'd obviously dispute it. 25,000? Prove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJJ999 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment. Toastmasters didn't change their website. The old link was to http://www.worldchampionspeakers.com/, a promotional website for an event including multiple winners of the title. The 25,000 claim is on the front page, but it's not an independent source. --Dhartung | Talk 06:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete, award is non-notable (and the award title is disputed among three organizations). Harvey is one of just four persons listed in World Public Speaking Championship who has an article; all the others have claims to notability beyond the award. Unless notability can be attributed to independent sources, there isn't much here. --Dhartung | Talk 07:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. The only think notable about him is that he won the Toastmasters public speaking tournament. I don't think that alone is enough to make him notable enough for wikipedia. Dorange 00:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
