Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Popaganda!!!

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Johnleemk | Talk 15:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Popaganda!!!

Album as yet unreleased. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Originally placed PROD tag but that was removed. Ifnord 21:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Just to be crystal-clear here, this is not a nomination about notability of the band, nor their previous records. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and this album does not yet exist. Even the title is undecided - per the article's own source on MTV. Ifnord 03:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

And according to their own Myspace blog, which the lead singer wrote, the album name is going to be what's listed here. The only change may be the exclamation points, but that's what the move button is for, right? --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 03:34, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Album is set to be released in June by a notable band, Head Automatica. Sources within article, song up on the band's Myspace, and they're a major label act to boot. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 21:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The band will only meet notability guidelines under WP:MUSIC after this album is released, if it ever is, and therefore, the band itself is not notable. There's no assertion of notability on the Head Automatica or Decadence (album) pages other than the fact that the band is signed to Warner Brothers. I'm putting PROD templates up on their other two pages. The band can put their page back up on Wikipedia after they have become sufficently notable. Brian G. Crawford 22:09, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I have removed those prods. The band reaches notability standards thanks to their multiple tours of the United States, their two albums on WB (even if one is due to be released in a couple months), their multiple major music media mentions, and the lead singer's membership in the rock band Glassjaw. I only got to the Head Automatica article today, so I'll have sources and an expansion shortly, but a little bit of research would have made this fairly evident. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 22:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Good call. Brian G. Crawford is fast becoming the Nancy Grace of AfD. The band very clearly meets notability guidelines; it's not even in question. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 03:43, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Keep per badlydrawnjeff. The 2-album standard is sufficient, but not necessary, for notability. Monicasdude 00:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, but Merge/Expand with Head Automatica. There's no point in having a stub that small when there is an article about the group. Expand/Merge the article, or delete it.C3H5N3O92010 00:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Even when we'll see a tracklisting shortly, and more information about the album closer to release date? --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 01:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notable group w/ notable members. Album will be out soon. The idea of WP:NOT "crystal ball" is not to delete articles about soon-to-be-released notable albums, only to recreate them a few months later upon release. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 01:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Announced albums from major bands get articles. -- JJay 02:36, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.