Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pissboy World Cup

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs Germany 11:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pissboy World Cup

Delete non-notable, possible hoax "contest" Drdisque 04:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --DCrazy talk/contrib 05:30, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, non-notable. Three hits on Google and hosted on Bravenet. Cookiecaper 05:31, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I can assure you that this is not a "hoax contest". It is most certainly for real, and will continue to be whether you delete it or not. Why go to the bother of setting up a website and a forum for something that doesn't exist? --Radioshed 05:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Hoax or not, it isn't notable. Cookiecaper 05:45, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
You'll probably find that this article doesn't actually come under any of the things listed in "Why this is wrong" on that particular page, Thesquire. It is not a made-up word, nor is it seeking hosting, nor is it the first instance on the net of its existence. The Pissboy World Cup is a competition with a growing fanbase in central Scotland, and its cult popularity is spreading due to advertising campaigns in the form of posters and flyers. Also, referring to what cookiecaper said, why does a website that is hosted by Bravenet automatically get a bad mark against it? Does the Pissboy World Cup have to pay for hosting before it can be accepted as part of Wikipedia? I don't think that's outlined in any Wikipedia rules anywhere. Radioshed
  • Comment: Radioshed is the author of the article. Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 08:56, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: I don't dispute that. However, that doesn't give you an easy excuse to simply pass off my arguments just because I'm the author of the article, which is what I think you're implying with that last comment. If you really need it, I'll bring in other people who'll happily argue this case for me.--Radioshed 09:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I mentioned that you were the author to inform others who may or may not consider your comment on the situation. If you can bring in others who can vouch for this sport's "popularity", fair enough, but I doubt it would swing many of us. I don't doubt you have a few friends that invented the sport with you. If the sport was really gaining popularity, it would have more than the three results displayed here. You're right, a Bravenet site doesn't deserve to be automatically shrugged off, but the event itself is inherently non-notable. Prove its notability (other than saying that it is growing) and I'll change my vote. Until that time, it remains delete. Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs Germany 10:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: I actually take offense at this. For a start, there is nowhere that claims that the Pissboy World Cup is a "sport", as you have accused. The Pissboy World Cup is nothing more than a game, and doesn't claim to be anything more. Also, the Pissboy World Cup was invented by one person and one person alone - me. The fact that you're already making assumptions as to how this competition came into being shows how arrogant you are, and that you've most likely already made up your mind before anyone can say anything against you. The fact is, none of the creator's "friends" had anything to do with this. On top of this, the fact that you base your confirmation of something's existance on google search results just shows that you are also narrow-minded. There's more to something than just what a typical search engine claims. Did the Olympics exist before Google came into being? If we were to go by your train of thought, then no, the Olympics must not have existed until 1996, when Google was created. What do you need before you confirm something's existance? And even after you confirm this, that something is "notable"? Do you want me to give you a free trip to Scotland so you can gather information on the popularity of the Pissboy World Cup? Unfortunately I don't think that will be happening. Radioshed
Comment As Radiohead is the creator of the article and the admitted creator of the subject matter itself, this now also falls under WP:VAIN -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 05:09, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, also unverifiable. Melchoir 09:16, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Melchoir. Radioshed, please read WP:V to see why. Zunaid 11:33, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Like the man said, Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day. Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 12:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delee as above. Evil Eye 12:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • This helpful reference definately must be kept for posterity. In years to come your children will be saying "Daddy, what were you doing during the pissboy world cup" and you're reply will be that you were trying to cover up it's existence for no other reason than to gain status in your ridiculous web community. Look this nonsense, it's all is written in HTML. You are worthless people, keep your grubby paws off our competition and your opinions to yourselves. I assure you the pissboy world cup is not a 'hoax competition' it is a highly organized event which provides much employment in the East Lothian area. People have worked very hard to make something of this and if you want to destroy all that then you will have to deal with them. Personally. Yours, Euan Glasgow, Gosford Manor, Longniddry. (Comment by |Junglist euan).
  • Comment: I'm getting seriously sick of this. I've moved your little essay to the end here. You have provided no evidence whatsoever of this event's notability. You cannot provide a single verifiable source of information to back your claims up. Like any other, this "ridiculous web community" has rules, and you will abide by them. This is a forum of discussion and as such there is no need to "keep our opinions to ourselves". I find it very unlikely that this competition is known to anyone beyond the select group of individuals mentioned on the website. Also, if this event is so important, I fail to see why it is so critical that this article stays. How exactly are we "destroying the hard work" of these people? Is Wikipedia the only basis for this "competition"? That alone would be criteria for deletion. Another thing: don't try play on people's consciences, and certainly don't go threatening members on here. It will bring you nothing, trust me. Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs Germany 14:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
I make no idle threats sir. But perhaps I did go a little too far. I merely mean to demonstrate that we take this competition very seriously and any publicity to the wider world is a tremendous boon for us. The suggestions made on this discussion board that the competition is a hoax deeply anger myself and my associates.
I myself work for a group of 'notables' in the East Lothian county who are very much concerned with the history of the area as well as the ongoing cultural contributions of the younger generation. Such things have far reaching effects, that could even be of benefit to the wider scottish community. Having looked at the wikipedia regulations that have been highlited with regard to this entry, and after much discussion with my employers, the creator of the site and pissboy world cup officials, It has been decided that we may have to make some concessions.
Beginning from today I shall be preparing resources with which to begin the writing of an academic paper which will detail the strong links between the cultural phenomenon of the pissboy world cup and rich and vibrant history of Scotland. I will be in discussions over the next week with the foremost representitives of East Lothians cultural elite who have in their extensive studies compiled an unrivalled knowledge of the land and it's people, covering topics such as the battle of prestonpans, the popular music of the Proclaimers, the strange circumstances behind the Tennent's brewery fire in 1979, and of course the Sammy Burns mythos.
I ask only for your continued patience in this matter, I hope that this will go some way to satisfying your demands. I see it as my priviledge to be working on this project and will certainly be happy to provide some provenance of the pissboy world cup and it's distinguished roots.
Yours, Euan Glasgow, Gosford Manor, Longniddry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Junglist euan (talk • contribs)
Mr. Glasgow, I have reformatted (wikified) your edit so that it is easier to read. Your content remains intact. In the future, please sign your additions to talk pages using four tildes (~~~~). Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia!
That said, I still think that this is non-notable, and unfortunately does not meet the standards of Wikipedia. I am pretty sure that no comments on this page are meant to be insulting or inflammatory; they do not read that way to me. The fact remains that there are no outside sources to back up this claim, and therefore this article should be deleted as non-verifiable. --DCrazy talk/contrib 18:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - how many DELETES do we need until we get rid of this nonsense? --'Oscarthecat 20:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete — This should've been speedied, it's obvious it's a non-notable personal essay --Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 20:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete no claim to notability in the article--Bill 21:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete Yes, delete it. Go on. If none of the Wikipedia people have heard of it, then it obviously doesn't exist, and it wouldn't even be worth taking notice of if it did. I feel sorry for those people who think that this competition actually exists because of blatant propaganda which has been posted around the capital city of Scotland. Pity those lesser humans, they should quake with fear before the power of Wikipedia.--Radioshed 04:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: You still don't seem to get it Radioshed. The minimum requirement of any article is that its content be relevant beyond a small group of people. People on here have invited you time and time again to present proof or sources related to this. Your answer has been to verbally insult anyone who challenges the legitimacy or notability of it. You have turned up nothing, except a Bravenet website and three Google links, two to your own site and one to a forum you posted to. If this was such an important event, it would have garnered at least a mention in a regarded weblog, a newspaper, or at least a number of fan sites. But there is nothing. In fact Google has been quite generous with the results. Yahoo throws up absolutely nothing. Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs Germany 06:49, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, and yes: Radioshed has asked that the article be speedy deleted. You can plainly see that. Right there. In the AFD discussion. Above. It's there. Kill the article. And yes. They should ALL quake with fear before the mighty power of the Wiki. ^_^ Cernen 10:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

...so why is it still here? Ah screw you all, I'll do it myself.--Radioshed 10:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.