Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Park Sung-Joon

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The result was Keep, consider moving; strong case for notability has been made. -- Visviva 02:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Park Sung-Joon

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Gamer who, while professional, appears to be non-notable, failing WP:BIO Oscarthecat 08:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy delete mind-numbingly non-notable. I can't believe this has survived since 2006!! Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 10:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - not sure if it qctually qualifies for speedy. /Blaxthos 14:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletions. -- PC78 15:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep (this article certainly doesn't qualify for speedy deletion). As a competitor in StarCraft professional competition he seems to meet the notability criteria for athletes, i.e. "Competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport". For what it's worth, he also gets a mention in this news article, which identifies him as a team leader in the Starcraft Pro League finals, suggesting notability within his field. PC78 15:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment thanks for the information. Having information like this in the article would make sense. As it stands the article doesn't help assert his notability. --Oscarthecat 17:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Not sure I agree - the article states that he is a professional gamer (which by definition makes him notable), and mentions several competitions that he has been involved in. I'll see if I can clean it up a bit though (when I get chance). PC78 17:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

• Keep 63,000 Ghits to JulyZerg. He's actually quite a star in Korea and this article is good for combatting WP:BIAS. Debivort 22:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep One of the problems seem to be in tranliterating the Korean. JulyZerg appears as Park Seong Jun in the StarCraft professional competition and as Park Sung Jun in the Starleague (Ongamenet) articles (I can be sure of this as the victories credited to JulyZerg on this page correspond to those on the Starleague (Ongamenet) article). If we're going by Ghits we can probably find more if we search for variations of Park Seong Joon, Park Seong-Jun etc. The only reasons I can think of for deleting this aricle is that the bio in the StarCraft professional competition article is actually better, and we might avoid confusion of all the possible transliterations by using JulyZerg as the article title. I'm going to try and link the three articles, anyone have a preference for which version of the name I should use. KTo288 00:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I've just found yet another version of the name. BahkSungJoon that is used as a redirect, so thats 2x2x2x2 versions of the name 2 versions of each of the names and with or without the dash.KTo288 00:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment in my fuss over the names I seem to have forgotten to make my case for keeping. The case is that in the StarCraft professional competition it is stated that he is a major player in the championship being the pre-eminent Zerg player and in the Starleague (Ongamenet) he appears in the list of the winners and runners up of the league.KTo288 08:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep He's definitely notable, he's one of the most recognized names in Korean progaming. The transliteration is a little tricky because the official romanization is often skipped. LxRogue 17:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment What would be an appropriate version of the name to use in all three articles and the Starcraft professional competition infobox?KTo288 19:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment 'Park Sung Jun' or 'Park Sung Joon' I think would be the top two, but there really is no standard for this. The sounds 'eo' and 'u' represent the same vowel as do 'u' and 'oo,' and technically 'Park' is pronounced 'Pak.' I guess you can see why this gets confusing. LxRogue 07:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Note This debate has been included in the list of Video games deletons KTo288 19:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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