Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paper Trail

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Sources have been added by Faithlessthewonderboy that address the delete concerns. seresin | wasn't he just...? 07:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paper Trail

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Unreleased album (crystal ballism) with little or no media coverage. Fails WP:MUSIC#Albums. Prod removed without comment. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 22:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 22:21, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:MUSIC#Albums. JohnCD (talk) 22:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Not notable enough unless it's a very famous artist or is fairly popular. --Jammy (talk) 23:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete T.I. is apparently pretty famous (several US Top 40 hits, according to Billboard), but this is still crystal ballery Doc StrangeTelepathic MessagesStrange Frequencies 02:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Definitely a violation of WP:CRYSTAL TaintedZebra (talk) 08:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep This nomination appears to be based on a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is not a crystal ball means. "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation." However the information in this article is based on verifiable information and we have articles on the artists earlier work. There does not appear to be a policy based reason to delete this. Catchpole (talk) 22:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment Try not to focus too much on the whole "crystal ball" thing, although until the album's released, writing about as if it's a done deal does involve a good deal of that. The main point of the nomination is that there is not enough media coverage for this album to be notable. Until the album's released, unless there is significant coverage in 3rd party sources, notability is not established. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony
  • Keep VERY notable artist, no reason to delete--Yankees10 00:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment Notability is not inherited. Just because T.I. is notable doesn't mean anything he releases is. And in this case, he hasn't even released it yet. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 00:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Incredibly Strong Keep I've just added several sources. This is a forthcoming album by a multi-platinum selling Grammy-winning musician, and has been covered by Rolling Stone, MTV, BET, XXL and VH1. People seem to think that WP:CRYSTAL applies to all future events, which just isn't the case. The album is extensively sourced and certain to take place; therefore, there is not crystalballery afoot. faithless (speak) 02:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.