Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PTDA

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sr13 06:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PTDA

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A Google search for this [1] shows no relevant results, so I don't believe that the organisation really exists. The references section has only commercial links that don't back up the article. Kevin 00:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Bucketsofg 02:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I did find this interesting link, which indicates that PTDA does actually stand for the Professional Truck Driver's Association. GrooveDog (talk) 02:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
That link is in the article as well, but seeing as anyone can submit an acronym I don't consider it a reliable source. Kevin 02:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Hold on until more sources can be verified that there is indeed a PTDA. GrooveDog (talk) 02:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
    • That's not the way Wikipedia works. WP:V requires verification to keep, not keep until verification. Corvus cornix 03:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
    • It's true. Those who wish to keep an article are responsible for providing the components that would allow it for inclusion. the_undertow talk 04:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • CSD a7 -- Y not? 03:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The organization previously known as the PDTA was affiliated with the ATA, but likewise, I have not found much to substantiate that it still exists. I did find another insurance organization that probably is trying to capitalize on the achronym, calling themselves the APTDA, but I don't think they are affiliated with the former PTDA. Sorry, I can't help provide any further assistance. It may be a good idea to delete this article, as it is lacking in sources. As the author of the article, I have no problem with it being deleted.StationNT5Bmedia 03:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete It doesn't seem notable by iself. The references don't really support the article. Shalom Hello 03:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, per Shalom. Might even qualify for CSD A7, as per Y. --Anonymous DissidentTalk 05:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
User:DGG removed the speedy tag noting that under CSD criteria A7 this does not qualify because it is not a company. I would argue that an association qualifies as a group, but it is an interesting point. Kevin 05:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • CDL Commercial Driver article NPOV neutral point of view covers many specifics about traffic safety, but could list this as a source. Perhaps, instead of deleting it, it could be merged to reflect a neutral point of view StationNT5Bmedia 05:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Discussion needed for PTDI also StationNT5Bmedia 05:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2nd thoughts

Upon re-reading the article, I've found some historical value to the content. Although the article might as well be tagged as a stub if it is not deleted, there is still something about the content that reminds me of Traffic Safety developing around the world, and the efforts of law makers to assist organizations willing to take steps to improve driver education. StationNT5Bmedia 03:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

  • The name of the affiliated non-profit organization has been found. It is called the Professional Truck Driver Institute, or PTDI. I am creating a stub for PTDI, and transporting most of the content for the article PTDA to it. Another external link has been located for PTDI.org, verifying that it is still in existence, and is a specialized field, so the article may be eligible for a specialized field tag. StationNT5Bmedia 04:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep from the above discussion, it seems like it is notable, as are most established trade associations. The questions seem to be editing problems. DGG 05:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.