Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nude Bowl

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (non-admin closure) — Caknuck 20:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nude Bowl

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Article is about a non-notable, now destroyed skateboarding park. There is zero true notability and looks like complete bollocks to me. Reywas92Talk 01:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

  • This might be notable, if it is accurate. Being the site of videos by a group notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, and the site of a three way confrontation between skateboarders, skinheads, and cops might be notable. But there are no sources. There is no way to tell even if these statements are true, much less if they were reported in such a way as to imply notability. Delete unless reliable sources are added to the article that would establish or at else pretty clearly imply notability. DES (talk) 01:29, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
    • With the added sourcing keep. Sources are not ideal, but ther are quite ample to establish notability, the question now isn't deletion but article quality.DES (talk) 06:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
This was not a "non-notable" skateboarding park. It was considered one of the most notable skateboarding sites of the 80's. It was featured in multiple skateboarding videos in the 80's, many magazine shoots, and was famous enough to have a replica of it put in the Palm Springs skate park. The issue with references is that it was popular during the 80's - long before the web. The Bones Brigade videos are not on the Internet, so they cannot be used as references. The many magazines of the 80's (ie: Transworld) have not been transcribed to the Internet, so they cannot be used as references. My hope is that someone will find resources online for article referencing. -- Kainaw(what?) 01:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • comment There is no requirement at all that sources be on the web. Give title, author, page number, and date (for a newspaper) or date and issue (for a magazine) or ISBN (for a book) Use {{citation}} or {{cite news}} or just but them in anyhow and someone else will do the formatting, but supply the sources. Then anyone who cares can go to the library and confirm. If there are sources on the net, great! but if not, give details on off-line sources. Read WP:CITE. DES (talk) 01:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I do not have any of my old videos or magazines anymore. That was a long (LONG) time ago. I've been grabbing up online resources, but I wouldn't claim they are dependable by themselves. However, I think that having multiple unrelated sources that make the same claim sort of makes up for the lack of newsworthiness of the source. Of course, I wouldn't mind if they'd put the Bones Brigade videos back out on DVD. I'd buy the box set. -- Kainaw(what?) 02:03, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. Well, it does seem to be well known among skateboarders, and it disappeared before the Internet was mainstream, so if anything, I'd tag it {{expert-subject}}. Print sources are needed. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 02:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep per above. JJL 02:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Someone added references. I think the article is fine now. Capmango 05:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Seems to be verifiable and notable (there does appear to be a song written about it). Cedars 04:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.