Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mx-west car club

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. It seems to me that some of the information in the section "MX-3 Modifications" can be merged to Mazda MX-3 or one of the other related articles. If anyone needs to get at this deleted information in order to merge it just ask me. —Doug Bell talk 20:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mx-west car club

Mx-west car club (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Non-notable club. Conflict of interest, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Gosteli. Contested prod. MER-C 04:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep. Relative web links to MX-West’s website and MX-3.com support the submitted information. Notability can be confirmed through external links and Google searches. A listing can also be found here. 15:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.82.99.10 (talk • contribs) 15:03, December 7, 2006
  • Delete. "Communities" don't count as sources, and COI sources only count if there are other, independent sources, which there are not. -Amarkov blahedits 15:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Not notable. Just 50 members? With all of the Western US & Canada in your membership area? --MECU≈talk 16:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. The number of members should not depict its notability. The organization hosts sport compact events throughout Western Canada and the USA. Individuals do not require to be a member to attend these events. 20:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Jgosteli (talk • contribs).
  • Delete per nom. The number of members does depict its notability. If there were a lot of members it would more likely be more notable. NeoJustin 21:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The subject of the organization is the MX-3 vehicle. If millions of these vehicles were remaining in existance, the number of members would also be high. Unfortunately it is a smaller target audience compaired to "Honda Civic" for example, but it should still receive notability. Otherwise, what is the point of even listing an article about the Mazda MX-3 if organizations that highly specialize in this car are not referenced. Would it still be acceptable to keep the article for the useful information it provides on the MX-3? 21:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC) User:Jgosteli (talk Double vote struck through. --Calton | Talk 23:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • This car was in regular production for 6 years, so tens or hundreds thousands of them were built and sold. And there are many collector organizations for it, to boot, so what makes this special. At 50 members, not much. --Calton | Talk 23:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. The MX-3 might be notable enough for an article, but a small club of people who've bought them? Not so much. --Calton | Talk 23:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, fails WP:V, not notable. Recury 20:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I did not think it failled WP:V, but obviously my article is loosing this battle. Perhaps I will have to try submitting this again one day when the club is a bit larger. Sigh.... Jgosteli 21:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete 50 members is NN --RaiderAspect 06:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Please note that the 50 members everyone is refering to are similar to comittee members and do not represent all MX-3 owners. These comittee members get added benifits but are mainly responsible for planning and running events for the MX-3 community. That is why the 50 members should not directly represent the organizations notability. Jgosteli 17:44, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Please do not blindly judge an organization's notability based purely on number of members. The Symbionese Liberation Army had only 13. I believe that most here are not doing that, but it will help the discussion when more of your thoughts are known. Dimitrii 21:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  • per Dimitrii I agree with Dimitrii. I have now spent a lot of time to re-word the information in the article as well as site as many references as possible. This article may not be important to the average person, but to a sport compact enthusiast, this would be quite valuable. I personally feel that the article has been enhanced to have a nice clean professional look and shows that it can conform to WP:V.Jgosteli 21:01, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Additional information has been added (Dec 13, 2006). This provides additional details on Mazda MX-3 enhancements for sport compact tuners. Wording has also been cleaned up to conform to a more neutral point of view Jgosteli 17:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.