Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mourning of Autumn Rain

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge/redirect. I am leaving what Quasirandom already merged into target article intact; the original will still be available in the redirect history if anyone wants to merge more. Chick Bowen 02:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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This comic fails WP:BK; no independent sources are cited, and I found none. The the only source given is a site with user-generated content (WP:SPS). A user objected to the PROD, so it goes here for further discussion. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 07:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep: By "you found none", you meant that your Google search didn't give any hits of reliable source, right? But that's not conclusive; there still might be some offline sources. I don't think it is contested that the book doesn't exist. -- Taku 22:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Then it would be good if you cite some. No one has added independent sources to the article since the notability warning was placed more than half a year ago. So unless someone shows that independent sources exist, my assumption would be that there are none. By the way: It's not in question that the book exists, but that it is notable. See the WP:BK guideline. --B. Wolterding 11:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge into an article on the author, who is very notable (published over 40 works, if I'm counting correctly, all through major publishers in Japan). I don't know if this collection is notable enough on its own to merit a separate article, but it would definitely qualify for a section or paragraph of its own in another article. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I created the article on the author. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I've merged the rest of the independent information about the collection into Akiko Hatsu (which needs the list of works expanded to include those not published in English). —Quasirandom 19:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge into author article. I've yet to find much on this particular collection in English, aside from that an English translation exists, but plenty on the author. Any substantive reviews are beyond my google fu abilities (or my language barrier). —Quasirandom 14:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Of course the article can be userfied to anybody who wants to write an article on the author, based on independent sources. --B. Wolterding 12:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Real book, real notable author, and the only reason is a guideline which sets the bar way too high? Easy !vote. --Gwern (contribs) 02:56 16 October 2007 (GMT)
    • The guideline is based on community consensus, and it is in fact the one criterion to apply here. If you disagree with the guideline as such, perhaps discuss this on its talk page. --B. Wolterding 09:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.