Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moshe Ayalon

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Will undelete and userfy upon request, if desired. Luna Santin 08:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moshe Ayalon

This author is not notable. None of his books have been published. There are no citations in the article, and I could not find any references to his works on the Internet. I spoke with a self-described expert in the genre of Israeli Alternate History and he never heard of this man. nadav 06:42, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Clarification His books may have been self-published, but I was unable to find any of them in the authoritative MALMAD catalog. nadav 07:11, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

nadav1, you didn't quite do this right. First you placed a Template:Unsourced on the article (fair enough) but with a misleading edit summary, {A} then you gave the article creator a warning (right thing), but using a Template:Nn-warn? {B} The article is *not* a candidate for speedy deletion, or any kind of deletion at that point.

The speedy deletion warning was a mistake. I was following the instructions on WP:BIO at the bottom, which I thought meant only that it could be nominated for speedy. The edit summary is accurate, I think. This is my first deletion nomination, so I'm learning. nadav 20:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not up on Vf..AfD trends, but is moving pet subjects to user space still fashionable? If google tests are still in, I'll save y'all the bother of parrotting and say, shock horror, there's not much. Clearly google is about as 'reliable' on fringe subjects as self described experts... or wikipedia. --zippedmartin 07:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes but national catalogs of books (both the Israeli and Australian) are reliable. If an author's books are not in any library, he's not much of an author. Moreover, the article seems to be entirely based on personal interviews with Ayalon. And since there is not a single mention of Ayalon anywhere on the internet, I doubt any verifiable information on him can be found. nadav 20:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a google search for moshe ayalon. It weeds out most references to a prominent sports medicine scientist and misprints referring to Moshe Ya'alon, the former chief of staff. This is a Hebrew Google search. All the results refer to the sports scientist. nadav 20:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Article references no sources. We expect claims of notability to be sourced to independent reliable sources. With no sources, no claims of notability are sourced that way. The above discussion about the lack of evidence of the book in any library in the countries where published is further indication, but not as important as the lack of sourcing. GRBerry 21:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.