Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Modern English personal pronouns

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Y.Ichiro (会話) 03:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modern English personal pronouns

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Also nominating Middle English personal pronouns in the same nomination. Both pages exist only to display templates. Templates that are already well displayed elsewhere. No real need, IMHO, for pages for just the templates. TexasAndroid 13:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep both "What links here" shows several incoming links from pronoun words such as "I" and "he". YechielMan 14:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment The pages you mentioned I, He, She etc. all display the exact same template. That is what the nominator was pointing out. The template is displayed 9 times on the various pronoun pages. It is also on separate page of its own. Why do we need separate pages that display what is already on the page to begin with? --Cyrus Andiron 18:32, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep — I created the pages. I intend to add to them sooner or later.

Feel free to delete them, if they get in the way somehow. Nothing will be lost, I'll just open them again later. The point of having them there is to encourage contribution from others. They also mean that the link at the top of the category pages is a nice healthy blue colour. I went to some trouble to set up categories and templates so they all link to one-another properly.

I can't actually see any good reason to delete them, though. They are not inaccurate or slanderous, it's not as though someone wants the name space for something else. They don't take up a lot of disk space. All they do is encourage contribution. Not only that there are English second language people who might even find the page and get something from it, simple as it is. Google always puts Wiki first.

Regarding templates, I thought the whole point of templates is they get used on many pages. Can't see much point in a template that only refers to one page, but I'm probably missing something.

I don't mind what decision is taken. Obviously I vote keep, I put 'em there, seems like a waste to take 'em down only to put 'em back again later. Cheerio. :D Alastair Haines 19:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

You say that they are there to encourage expansion. But I just don't see what possible expansion there is. Duplicate information in the individual articles? What else could/would go here? You already have the basics in the templates themselves, but the data in the templates is duplicated on all the individual pages already. These pages, for just the templates, are duplicative of the others, and offer nothing new themselves. If I could see how these could be expanded themselves to be useful, I might change my opinion, but as it is, they serve no purpose, IMHO. - TexasAndroid 20:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• Redirect Modern English personal pronouns to English personal pronouns; this appears to be a duplicate article. Merge and redirect Middle English personal pronouns to Middle English. English personal pronouns demonstrates that these can clearly be encyclopedic topics. —ptk✰fgs 19:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I would support these redirects as well. If I had spotted the duplicate pages, I likely would have just done the redirects myself instead of AFDing these. - TexasAndroid 20:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - clearly a notable subject. Once all are expanded all could be kept on their own pages. Similar ot redlinks, separate pages invite embellishment and expansion. "Expand" tags may have been a better idea to place on pages rather than bringing discussion here. I do concede I've seen some healthy article improvement from discussion here. cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 20:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep it exists to provide information about modern English pronouns and happens to be in the form of a template. I must be missing something. It could expand very nicely. hombre de haha 19:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.